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Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]



Terry, a few quick comments -- first, Utah-glx is in the past. While
their work may have been nifty at one point, and for people running
3.3.x perhaps necessary, XF 4.0.1 has a *much* easier GL system.

Second, I'm not sure what you mean by ``I have a g400, not a v3'' --
last time I ran the dexter program, it did not automatically assume I
had any type of video card -- rather, it allowed me to select my g400
from a list. But then, I haven't run dexter lately.

Third, welcome to life running Debian unstable. :) If you want nice
stable operating, run potato. It is very good. If you want the latest
and greatest (including XF4.0.1's much improved GLX support), then
running woody is just fine -- though there will be bumps along the way.
Those bumps are part of running woody, until it is declared stable.
(Well, heck, bumps might happen then too, but we try to minimize them.
:)

Fourth, there is no pressing need to email Branden directly -- he is
awful busy. Using lists such as debian-user (for most X questions) or
debian-x (for questions specific to the debian packaging of X) will
usually get responses much faster.

Cheers! :)

* Branden Robinson <branden@deadbeast.net> [001211 19:35]:
> ----- Forwarded message from Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <mongoose@users.sourceforge.net> -----
> 
> From: "Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II" <mongoose@users.sourceforge.net>
> To: Branden Robinson <branden@deadbeast.net>
> Subject: X upgrade policy
> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:05:35 -0500 (EST)
> Delivered-To: branden@localhost.deadbeast.net
> Delivered-To: branden@deadbeast.net
> X-Sender: mongoose@localhost
> Reply-To: "Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix" <stu7440@westga.edu>
> In-Reply-To: <20000928005531.C10648@deadbeast.net>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012111559520.437-100000@localhost>
> 
> 
> Why have you made the upgrade path in X impossible?  You can't run utah on
> 4.0 - yet you blindly install 4.0 over every system by dependcies.  You
> don't even bother checking /proc to see what card is installed.  A simple
> grep of /proc/pci shows I have an AGP G400, not a V3!
> 
> I have a machine that has half 3.3.6-18 and 4.0 installed now - and I had
> the utah package installed!  You should check for utah before 'upgrading'
> blindly over it.  I told you people not to do this - 3d accel is very
> important - you shouldn't dissmiss it outright.
> 
> I'm having to reinstall all my X libs and applications now, and I can't
> develop my projects while fixing your mistakes.
> 
> 
> cheers,
> Terry
> 
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