Re: Bug#925300: Debian home page: Cleaning up the "Getting Started" paragraph
Hello Cyrille
El 22/3/19 a las 15:33, cyrille@bollu.be escribió:
> Package: www.debian.org
>
> Hi,
>
> I've come across the email from Thomas
> (https://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2019/02/msg00070.html) speaking
> about cleaning up Debian's home page and quickly had a look at the video
> linked.
>
> I must say that I share Keith and Thomas' concerns about the
> organisation of the information on Debian's website.
>
> I'm using Debian for almost 20 years (I think Woody was the first
> release I've used. Though it might be Potato) and have always been held
> back from development/package management by the difficulties to get
> clear information how to create and maintain packages.
>
> Well, that's not exactly true, I've recently been admitted as guest in
> the Perl Maintainers group thanks to a common interest with
> yadd@debian.org about the OCS Inventory software.
>
> Anyway, as I'm currently trying to get more knowledge about Debian's
> package management system, I'm again facing the same difficulties to get
> clear information.
>
> That's in this context, looking for development/package management
> documentation, that I've come across https://www.debian.org/ and thought:
>
> * Wow, that's a confusing page: There's a "Getting Started" paragraph,
> but there's nothing about getting started with development in there.
> * Maybe in the "documentation" link?...
> * Wow, that's even more confusing...
> * Hey, but there's this upper menu with a "Developer's Corner" entry!?
> Let's have a look...
> * Wow, there are a lot of things here. A lot of things I already know
> but maybe also others...
>
> That's to say, I'm lost in information again :-(
>
> Here's some observations and proposals for you to improve this homepage:
>
> 1. I didn't even looked at all the links organized as a table at the top
> of the page; There are far too much links there imho
> 2. I think the upper menu bar (the one with the links "About Debian",
> "Getting Debian", "Support",...) is very good and I think the "Getting
> Started" paragraph might easily be entirely replaced by this menu bar.
> The "Getting Started" paragraph only adds the following links:
> 2.1 "installation instructions": Imho it is not needed as these
> installation instructions can easily be found in the page linked by the
> "Getting Debian" menu bar entry
> 2.2 "Release Notes": I think adding the release notes in the page
> linked by the "Getting Debian" menu bar entry could be a good enough
> solution
> 2.3 "Documentation": This link should be added in the upper menu bar
> 2.4 "International": No idea but it could be moved in another paragraph
> 2.5 "Ports": No idea but it could be moved in another paragraph
> 3. In the end, the "Getting Started" paragraph would simply instruct the
> readers to use the upper menu bar for anything related to "Getting
> started".
>
> Best regards,
>
> Cyrille
>
Thanks for your interest in improving the Debian website.
We had a web team sprint last week and one of the core topics that were
discussed was Thomas' proposal for the home page, and we also reviewed
many other areas of the website, spotting some of the issues that you
explained, and other.
We're working on it, and I apologise for not sending quicker the report
of the sprint to be able to coordinate all the work. I hope to send the
detailed report soon, but for now I can say that the homepage is being
worked in the new-homepage branch at the webwml repo [1] and the CD and
distrib sections are being merged/worked in the new_download [2] and
new-cd_distrib-section [3] branches.
[1] https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/tree/new-homepage
[2] https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/tree/new_download
[3]
https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/tree/new-cd_distrib-section
We'd prefer to work in branches so we can settle the English wording,
get some English-native-speakers to review and improve it, and hopefully
get also the corresponding translations too, so when we merge into the
master branch (and the website is built) all these important pages are
shown as updated in the usual languages.
In any case, some of your proposals have been already merged and
translators are working in syncing their languages.
If you think that this bug can be closed now, please close it or tell us
so we close it.
If you have more proposals, I suggest that you have a look at the
branches mentioned before or create a new branch, so we avoid duplicate
work, and we can issue a call for translations when we think we're ready
to merge new contents into the main English pages.
Thanks again for your contributions!
Kind regards,
--
Laura Arjona Reina
https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
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