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Re: Inclusion in the Debian consultant list



Hi there!

On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:00:15 +0100, Simon Paillard wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 02:09:43PM +0100, Luca Capello wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:48:27 +0100, Simon Paillard wrote:
>> > The mail setup is way uglier (/org/www.debian.org/mail/.mailfilter on
>> > www-master), on which email do you want to receive consultants mails (and
>> > spams) ?
>> 
>> $ ssh gismo@www-master.debian.org
>> Permission denied (publickey).
>
> $ ldapsearch -H ldap://db.debian.org -LLL -b "dc=debian,dc=org" -x host=wolkenstein allowedGroups
> dn: host=wolkenstein,ou=hosts,dc=debian,dc=org
> allowedGroups: debwww
> allowedGroups: mirroradm
> allowedGroups: press

Ops, I checked through the website, but without success:

  <https://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=wolkenstein>

>> Anyway, please use my personal email address, the one I am writing from.
>
> Done.

Thank you, I will start reading the backlog at:

  master.debian.org:/home/debian/archive/debian-consultants/

However, I do not know which month I should start with :-)

>> > Don't you think we should move that to a wiki page so that people add
>> > themselves ?
>> 
>> Exactly because the wiki page is not under our control, I do not
>> consider it official.
>
> What is the point of an official list of consultants while we cannot asset at
> all skills of that consultant ?

Apart from the fact that we do not ask for any skill, but simply list
them as "consultants", what is more important for me is that such a list
is on the "moderated" d.o space: there is more than a simple "send email
here to be added" action or a wiki edit, we (Debian) has to react.
Which means that we have ways of checking that the request is not an
automatic one.

>> > While we can filter vendors that do not sell the last Debian version, there is
>> > little added value in manual processing of consultants.
>> 
>> I disagree with any automatic addition to www.d.o, which means that IMHO
>> manual processing is always required for consultants/vendors/events/...
>
> While events/vendors have metrics that allow moderation (does the vendor still
> sells up to date Debian), I still wonder what type of moderation can be applied
> to consultants beside spam filtering.

Not that I want to dig into other people's lives, but some problems
linked to vendors apply to consultants as well, e.g. does the consultant
who claims to donate to Debian actually do it?

I know I am entering a dangerous field, but IMHO this is something that
we should pay attention if we want to bless some persons including them
in an "official" page.

And to be clear: I do not care if it is automatic or not, I would like
to have a documented solution which actually takes advantage of the
resources that we have (e.g. the BTS as Don suggested).

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

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