Re: HTTP mirror link is hard to locate on www.debian.org
On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 07:33:16PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 12:48:39AM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > Call mer stupid
...
Well I was stupid. For usability test, you need a "stupid" person :)
> You are confused by the file name -- the names of the countries are HTTP,
> and the "(FTP)" links are HTTP. Hmm. Maybe we should make the latter <small>.
I see. It is tricky :) Maybe following updates may help people like me.
Old Title: "The FTP server network"
New Title: "The Debian download server network"
Old lead phrase:
Debian GNU/Linux is distributed (mirrored) on hundreds of servers on the
Internet. Using a nearby server will probably speed up your download, and
also reduce the load on our central servers and on the Internet as a
whole.
New lead phrase:
Debian GNU/Linux is distributed (mirrored) on hundreds of servers on
the Internet. They can be accessed by several methods including HTTP
and FTP. Using a nearby server will probably speed up your download,
and also reduce the load on our central servers and on the Internet
as a whole.
I did not say RSYNC in above. Then all the lists shall be:
Old list on screen: "Austria (FTP)"
,, excerpts in HTML:
<li><a href="http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/";>Austria</a>
(<a href="ftp://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/";>FTP</a>)<br>
New list on screen: "Austria: HTTP, FTP"
,, excerpts in HTML:
<li>Austria: <a href="http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/";>HTTP</a>,
<a href="ftp://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/";>FTP</a><br>
I understand this is generated by the script (ftplist.py) and wml.
Also, front page link needs to ditch the use of FTP and simply say
"Download".
> > This page still sort of encourage people to download full CD image if
> > they do not know much about how Debian works (Most ex-RH folks). They
> > will surely pound on server for no reason after woody release for sure.
>
> Sadly, that's unavoidable regardless of the links on our web pages...
Sad but that is reality.
> > I think direct link from front page to above URL should be replaced by
> > the title "Network install" linked to:
> > http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
>
> I was planning to put these side by side when woody was released. I never
> tested potato netinst images and other people weren't overly vocal about its
> quality, so I didn't want to plug it as much, in case something was wrong
> with it.
Good plan.
> Which page? Surely not netinst, since those netinst images aren't
> distributed over the mirror network...
My mistake.
> > Also,
> >
> > http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst
> >
> > currently points to FTP site only but this should mention HTTP too.
>
> It says "a Debian FTP mirror", but it links to a page full of HTTP links :)
> The intention is "debian/ mirror", but using that or the term "Debian
> archive" might confuse people.
Now I understand it better. As I proposed above, how about "The Debian
download server network"?
> I guess I can ditch the word FTP from there, though.
Please as I described above.
> > HTTP sometimes have advantage to go through some firewall easily :)
>
> Indeed, and it's got less starting overhead, so we are using it everywhere
> instead of FTP, or moving towards that.
Thanks.
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