Re: Further to: Re: About the recent events in the Rails community about using explicit sexual contents in slides
On Thursday 09 July 2009 19:59:34 Serafeim Zanikolas wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 03:18:10PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote [edited]:
> > In the future, if you run into threads like this it's best to contact
> > listmaster@lists.debian.org; I don't think any of us actually read
> > debian-user@ldo, so we'd miss a thread like this unless it's pointed
> > out.
>
> Would we please add the above suggestion:
>
> (i) in the mailing lists CC
>
> (ii) (ideally) in the subscription confirmation one receives when signing
> up to a mailing list
>
> BTW here are some thoughts of mine after I've been flamed recently by a DD:
>
> What's hurting more than a DD's rudeness is the project's silent
> endorsement of it. I'm not implying it's possible to have firefighters
> all over the place, when DDs are overcommited with real work, but this
> doesn't make it any less painful from the victim's perspective ...
>
>
> Speaking of the CC, how about re-wording its penultimate rule
>
> Try not to flame; it is not polite.
>
> to something stronger, say
>
> Do not flame; it is counterproductive.
Great!! It would seem to me to be a good idea, so I am definitely not flaming
you.
But it wouldn't help in the case I mentioned. It would have helped if I had
known I could report it. I assumed that the fact that no-one else had
stepped in and stopped it, meant that it was acceptable on the main Debian
list. I had no doubt that it would not be acceptable here.
> What's hurting more than a DD's rudeness is the project's silent
> endorsement of it.
Quite. Hence my feeling so bruised. The attitude displayed even in the one
personal apology I received (after the rape comment) shows that, from my
point of view, the entire ethos of the list is hostile. _One_ man got it and
said so, and I am very grateful to him.
Lisi
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