On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:34:14AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 01:27:02PM -0200, Fernanda Giroleti Weiden wrote: > > One way of fixing this specific problem is creating a way to choose > > between pictures of women or men on the program. Yes, why not have p0rn > > pictures of a man in the .deb package too? Is it possible to fix this > > sexism problem? > > How is putting pictured naked guys in a package making it any less > offensive and sexist? > > What you're basically saying here, to me, is that it's not that you > find cartoons of boobs actually offensive, but that you feel > slighted that your particular kink isn't satisfied, and so therefore > you're unhappy. I think that when only males (or overwhelmingly males) gets their kinks satisfied in a systemic way and women do not, that might qualify as sexist and a reason to be unhappy. I think that when this happens at the expense of women users and participants, that might qualify as well. > If your intention is actually to remove images from main which tend > to get an awful lot of prudes annoyed (or rather stop them before > they get in), then just say so. That doesn't sound to me like it was the feeling that started this thread out at all. > Don't try and make compromises of the sort you are making here, > because all you are actually doing here is seeking to *increase* the > amount of offensive (to some) material in Debian. I think that having a choice between two naked pictures in the already pornographic hot-babe prospective package is not going to tipping the scale too far one way or another. :) > > We need to discuss this point and find a technical way of solving the > > first. > > Don't look for technical solutions to social problems. This is in *no* > *way* a technical problem. Next you'll be asking for a technical solution > to the problem of where to go for dinner. I highly doubt anyone will be asking for that. The line here, and elsewhere, is a grey one and people often disagree. Technical and social problems tend to overlap and people tend to disagree. Regards, Mako -- Benjamin Mako Hill mako@debian.org http://mako.yukidoke.org/
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