Bug#498396: Interest in co-maintaining argyll
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On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 02:31:51PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
>Jonas Smedegaard, 2009-03-06 14:03:52 +0100 :
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>>> As for git, I like it less and less as time passes.
>>
>> Please elaborate (or refer to some details somewhere).
>>
>> I am curious to know your reasons - even if you do not want to
>> discuss them: I want to learn :-)
>
> I find it obscure, and I don't like to have to wrap my head around
>git's concepts when all I want is a VCS. I don't want to know what a
>blob is or what hoops to jump through when all I want is to incorporate
>commits from another branch. I acknowledge many people find it very
>powerful, and I tend to agree, I just dislike the way it constantly
>reminds me of its presence.
Perhaps I will agree with you after working some more with Bazaar. :-)
>>> As for CDBS, I don't like it much, but the good news is that it
>>>shouldn't be needed anyway. The current debian/rules file is mostly
>>>standard Debhelper stuff, with very little additions, and I'm pretty
>>>sure it could be reduced to a handful of lines with Debhelper 7.
>>
>> There is more to CDBS than simplifying debhelper.
>
> I guess so, but does it bring anything here?
* help ensure properly maintained debian/copyright
* help maintain (build-)dependencies
* help pull upstream tarballs, including repackaging non-DFSG ones
* help setup build routines, including multi-flavored builds
Haven't look at the actual package so can't say if any of above is
relevant here specifically.
>> Do I need something installed in addition to the "bzr" package?
>
> Ah, yes, for some reason HTTP doesn't work nice with the default
>implementation in bzr 1.5. You can install python-pycurl (which fixes
>it).
Ah, thanks. Works now. :-)
I see now that bzr suggests that package. Would it perhaps make sense to
recommend it instead, or would you say that most users of Bazaar won't
need HTTP client support?
>>> If you can live with bzr, I'll probably set up a shared repository,
>>>either in a dedicated Alioth project or under pkg-phototools.
>>
>> A year ago I would have declined. Now that I have wrapped my mind
>> around git I have a feeling I can grasp other distributed VCS'es too.
>>
>> In other words: YES! Let's go for it!
>
> Great :-) Except I'm going on holiday for a week, which means lots of
>unexpected and obviously urgent work is heading my way *today* (of
>course). So I encourage you to play with the package, make changes and
>patches, and I'll set up the shared repo when I'm back.
No problem. I have a bunch of work myself - I hope to sneak in som time
to play with Bazaar and this package.
If I find myself resonably comfortable with Bazaar I might even add some
CDBS enhancements (in a separate branch) for you to look at (but again:
tell me if you know ahead that it is of no interest, so I won't waste
time pursuing a dead end).
Ping me when you are ready to work more on this :-)
- Jonas
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