Re: Reaffirm public voting

[Tiago Bortoletto Vaz <tiago@debian.org>]

On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 12:14:56PM +0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> 
> Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> wrote on 04/03/2022 at 12:03:22+0100:
> 
> > [[PGP Signed Part:Signature made by expired key 0816B9E18C762BAD Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@mapreri.org>  ]]
> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 10:42:51AM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
> >> Reaffirm public voting
> >> ======================
> >> 
> >> Since we can either have secret and intransparent voting, or we can have
> >> open and transparent voting, the project resolves to leave our voting
> >> system as it is.
> >> 
> >> Rationale:
> >> 
> >> The GR proposal for secret voting is silent on implenentation details,
> >> probably because secret and transparent voting is, well, impossible to
> >> achieve fully, so this GR is bound to a similar fate as the 'publish 
> >> debian-private' vote, which was voted for and then was never implemented.
> >> 
> >> A voting system which is transparent only to some, is undemocratic and
> >> will lead to few people in the know, which is diagonal to Debians goals
> >> of openness and transparency.
> >> 
> >> And then, early 2022 is not the time for rushed changes like this, which
> >> is also why I explicitly want to see "keep the status quo" on the ballot,
> >> and not only as "NOTA", but as a real option. 
> >> 
> >> I'm seeking sponsors for this amendment to the current GR.
> >
> >
> > Assuming you meant this as "this ballot" instead of "this amendment"
> > (following the new GR flow), I sponsor this.
> >
> >
> >
> > If I were to add my thoughts: political GRs don't belong in Debian,
> > please take them elsewhere.  For non-political votes there is no use
> > for private voting.
> 
> Is init systems GR a political GR?
> 
> I'm pretty sure some gave double thoughts before voting because of the
> shitstorm/flame that had happened before the vote.

Not only that, but also conflicts of interest involving an employer may
have influence over a non-political vote (or the willingness to vote).
This has been argued already it seems.

Bests,

--
Tiago