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Re: [draft] Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Conference DebConf20

On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 12:44:23AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:12:21 AM EDT Bdale Garbee wrote:
> > Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> writes:
> > > It's almost like this discussion about a GR was a premature waste of
> > > everyone's time.

> > It's also possible that discussion about a possible GR influenced the
> > ultimate decision in a useful way.

> > [shrug]

> Sure, but doing business by threat of GR is a horrible way to run things.

> What I would have hoped is that project members would trust the people that 
> they have (indirectly) delegated the responsibility to run Debconf to to do a 
> good job and only once there is something that's enough of a problem to 
> require a project wide decision to change their decision consider a GR.

> There's enough to do to make the Debian project go that I don't think we need 
> to engage in project level micromanagement like this.

The fact that the organizing team's response to the pandemic was anything
other than a categorical decision not to hold a conference that would put
people on planes and increase the overall risk of the community of disease
transmission - and was instead in the nature of a public poll to find out
whether there was enough *interest* in holding an in-person conference -
means they had already lost any confidence I might have had in them in this

In this context, the rationale for the decision is as important as the
decision itself.

I did not trust them to do the right thing because they had already done the
wrong thing.

A GR under those circumstances looks entirely appropriate to me.

Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                   https://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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