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Re: Q to Mehdi: safe and fun



On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 11:52:51PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> On 31/03/2017 12:38, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 04:00:49AM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> >> If you want to ban someone from a mailing list, you may contact list-masters.
> >> If you want to ban someone from IRC, you may contact IRC operators.
> >> if you want to ben someone from the project, you may contact DAM.
> >> If you contact the DPL, then you're asking for some mediation.
> > 
> > I must say I'm disappointed by this response in the context of debconf-team…
> Can you please clarify what you find disappointing and why here?
 
in the case "of debconf-team", I dont think banning $that person from the
lists or from irc would be appropriate (one can be very very annoying and
yet not violating any rules) and offering mediation by the DPL *now*, after
several people left or severely reduced their involvement, is also way too
late.

hope that clarifies.

> > Banning someone is a last step, what's lacking are steps before that.
> > 
> > Granted mediation *is* a step before banning, but IMO it didnt work well in
> > the context of debconf-team… though "didnt work well" is a very mild way to
> > put it :-(
> > 
> > Also, I think mediation was tried way too late (=years), after several team
> > members burned out, left and were not interested in mediation anymore.
> > 
> > (Sadly I have not much constructive to say here right now…)
> > 
> > 
> 




-- 
cheers,
	Holger

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