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Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)



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Gunnar Wolf writes ("Re: GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)"):
> Anyway, I do clearly see value in having your proposal as part of the
> ballot (as well as Iain's, if he pushes it on and makes it a formal
> proposal. I will call for a vote... Say, by Friday. Meanwhile, we have
> some time to get more sponsors for this option.
> 
> Now, how should I "mark" your proposal as a formal option for sharing
> the ballot with mine?

Well, there are three routes:

 * The Secretary could say that he's happy to treat my proposal as an
   amendment to yours, with my consent (which I hereby clearly
   restate).  It would still need some more seconds.

 * I could remake my proposal as formally an amendment to yours, and
   then we could try to get K sponsors for that version.  Just in case
   this is needed, I hereby do so.  That is, I hereby propose as an
   amendment to Gunnar's proposal, to replace it with the text below.

 * You could yourself re-make my proposal as an amendment to your own
   (A.1.1 "directly by the proposer", ie you), not "accept" it (A.1.3)

> FWIW, I'm signing this mail, so that the Secretary clearly reads my
> intention :)

Likewise.

Regards,
Ian.


Formal proposal for amendment to Gunnar's GR: delete all, and replace
with:

 Title: Acknowledge difficulty of declassifying debian-private

 1. The Debian Project regrets the non-implementation of the 2005
    General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private list
    archives".  That General Resolution is hereby repealed.

 2. In case volunteers should come forward: Permission remains for the
    list archives (of any messages, whether posted before or after
    this resolution) to be declassified, provided that the
    declassification process is at least as respecting of the privacy
    of posters to debian-private as the process set out in the 2005
    General Resolution.

 3. Furthermore, the Debian listmasters remain empowered (subject to
    the usual consultation processes within the Debian project) to
    revise the rules governing the privacy and declassification of
    messages to -private.  This includes making measures to make
    declassification more widely applicable, or easier to automate.

 4. But, any weakening of the privacy expectations must not be
    retrospective: changes should apply only to messages posted after
    the rule change has come into force.

 5. In particular, we reaffirm this rule: no part of a posting made to
    -private, which explicitly states that it should not be
    declassified, may be published (without its author's explicit
    consent).  This rule may be changed by the listmasters (para.3,
    above), but only for future messages (para.4, above), and only
    following consultation, and only with ample notice.

 5. Participants are reminded to use -private only when necessary.

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