>>>>> "Stefano" == Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> writes: Stefano> do you think the time is ripe for dropping section §5 of the Debian Stefano> Social Contract [1], namely "Works that do not meet our free software Stefano> standards" or should we wait more? [...] Stefano> - Dropping SC §5 would not necessarily mean removing contrib non-free Stefano> from our mirror network, from our dak instance, etc. It might simply Stefano> mean stopping publicly sanctioning that Debian aims at supporting Stefano> mixed free/non-free setup. Developers interested in working on Stefano> contrib/non-free will not be stopped by doing so even if SC §5 would Stefano> get dropped. Stefano> No matter the timing, do you see dropping SC §5 as a worthwhile goal at Stefano> all? That's a tough thing, to be honest. On one hand, supporting non-free sends a message I'm not particularly happy with. On the other hand, it allows a lot of people to work with free software, on hardware that doesn't work without non-free - and this is beneficial. If we keep non-free on our mirrors, and allow such packages to use the BTS, what exactly does removing SC §5 buy us? I'd think that would do more harm than good, because while we would say we're not supporting such software, we'd still provide infrastructure for them. That's a worse message than accepting some people's need for non-free. So, the only way I could see the drop of SC §5 as a worthwhile goal, is if we also removed non-free (and possibly contrib) too. Unfortunately, I do not think we're quite there yet. But - in the long run - it would be a worthy goal to pursue. -- |8]
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