Re: Can you all please stop?

[Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de>]

Hi,

Andrew McGlashan:
> The trouble is that the "hedgehogs" seem to be going for the /easy/
> option of giving in to systemd, rather that thinking about what is
> actually best in the interests for their works ... perhaps systemd is
> the best for them because it is becoming the "tyranny of the default"
> [1],

That article talks about default settings in software, particularly WRT
privacy. I don't think it's particularly relevant in this discussion, esp.
(a) this is about differing sets of features, (b) Upstream _has_ thought
about whether to support other init systems' interfaces (and decided
the time required to do that can be spent better elsewhere).

> going to be hard to revert later

(a) why should we want to do that?
(a1) if we ever do it, it's going to be an init with a comparable
     feature set. there is none, not now anyway
(b) it's not, given the shims and/or config file translators we
	already have

> rather than go the /easy/ way and succumb to systemd.
> 
Do you really think that you can sway anybody's opinion here by comparing
systemd to an infectious disease?

And yes, it's easy. System administration and troubleshooting is _way_
easier with systemd than with anything else I've laid my hands on.
Sometimes, the "easy way" is a Good Thing.

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-- Matthias Urlichs