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Re: Can you all please stop?

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On 31/10/2014 3:48 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 04:12:04PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
>> Of course RHEL and Fedora dropped sysvinit support, they are Redhat
>> derived. Can anybody guess where systemd is devloped?
>> The more important that Debian does not drop support for sysvinit then,
>> until alternatives have stabilized :) (and systemd/uselessd is deferred
>> to PID 2). PID 1 should be as small as possible, see a proposed
>> implementation in: http://ewontfix.com/14/
> I must note that this is a list of "Voting announcements and discussion"
> and not yet another place where people, many of them non-DD and thus not
> entitled to vote or take part in the pre-vote procedures, could endlessly
> repeat their opinions, many of them FUD, about things somehow related to
> the vote.

It is not FUD and that is a major problem in itself, the
misrepresentation or understanding of the real problems people have with

If upstream is the problem, then they need lobbying; just accepting what
upstream does is a very serious problem -- of course, us mere mortal
users *have* to accept DDs as our only "upstream" with a real voice.
Users have pushed back, with very good reasons, so too must DDs ...
unless they don't understand the problems being expressed.

Take your blinkers off, this is NOT FUD -- these issues are very REAL!

This is a very real issue that will drive many away from Linux and
looking to alternatives, myself, that may end up being kFreeBSD, but if
that doesn't get the blessing of the Jessie release team ... then I've
got to consider going directly to FreeBSD as a real alternative.


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