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Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2008: Marc Brockschmidt



Bas Wijnen <wijnen@debian.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 09:22:19PM +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Campaigning on debian-vote *and* canvassing for help?  Is this really
> > what aj meant by "summarise their plans for their term"?
>
> No, this is just answering a question.  Do you suggest that he should
> have delayed the answer until campaining would be allowed?

Yes.  Candidates should be organised enough to defer a task a few days.

> > If the project is minded to allow such discussion during nominations,
> > we should shorten the discussion-only period, instead of claiming
> > there's some convention that campaigning is limited to the campaign
> > period.
>
> I don't really remember the exact periods, and what is supposed to
> happen when.  (And I don't care enough to look it up.)  What is the
> reason we would want a campainless period during nominations?  I don't
> really see any benefit.  [...]

I want a limit on the election campaign time to try to limit the
inevitable politicking from spilling over into more of the year.  The
benefit would be less time spent on the election, so available for
other work.

> > That would also reward early nominations and may help avoid candidates
> > like Marc Brockschmidt putting the time into standing from fear of
> > being left with only one unacceptable late nomination.
>
> I don't see how that would result from not campaining during the
> nomination period (or before it, for that matter). [...]

Sorry, it seems I was unclear: shortening the campaign-only time
should be accompanied by acknowledging that candidates may campaign
during the whole election, as some have done for a few years.  So, the
sooner a candidate is nominated, the sooner they could start
campaigning and that would be a reward for early nominations.

> > Propose it and I'll second.
>
> I'm not sure what you want to see proposed, but I think I don't want to
> do it. ;-)  Anyway, why don't you make the proposal yourself?

Because I want to see if there's any support before spending effort on
drafting.  Also, I think a proposal by someone else is more likely to
succeed.  Finally, I made a similar proposal last year in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2007/08/msg00102.html
but it only got three seconds, amid some claims about campaigning
being limited by convention (!) and debate organisation.

Hope that clarifies,
-- 
MJR/slef
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