Re: A question to the Debian community ...
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 01:43:33PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Friday 11 May 2007 12:03, MJ Ray wrote:
> > > > The expulsion procedure doesn't call for a vote, so your 70:7 statistic
> > > > is irrelevant.
> > > It's also wrong.
> > So what is the count that DAMs received? I mean, if one says that's wrong,
> > then one should know what is right in order to say that.
>
> No. To be able to say something is wrong, you dont need to know whats right.
> Obviously it's good to know whats right, but it's not needed. (And obviously
> I dont read the DAMs mail.)
>
> Only 7 people having supported the expulsion cannot be true, as the the
> procedure requires 15 supporters and afaik there were enough.
70:7 (more or less, i think it was more 77:7 or something such), did
express themselves, mostly strongly or very strongly, against the
expulsion, during the public discussion procedure. This is the publicly
expressed opinion of the DDs, as all the rest was hidden in the DAMs
mailbox, who chose not to give a transparent account of it, but did
chose to mangle them in this request.
> Also I wonder where all those supporters of Sven are now. I wouldnt be
> surprised if by now, more people have killfilled Sven and all messages
> refering to his messages, than there are supporters of him in Debian.
> I should probably do the same.
Yeah, you are happy, you won, i was temporarily expulsed, and now you
stand gloating over it. I suppose you are proud of you, but this is a
shame to debian, and this shame is shared between all who let it happen,
and thus lend their silent support to the way you and frans and the
others have behaved.
Holger, your action speak louder than words, i came to you at FOSDEM,
asking you your advice on my FOSDEM kernel presentation, and if i had
managed to be fair about the d-i problematic in it, and you where
arrogant and haugthy, already knowing of the new expulsion request you
had apparently discussed somewhere, while i was abidding by the ban, and
stated debian would be a better place without me.
Saddened,
Sven Luther
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