Re: Question to the candidates: inclusion of the kFreeBSD-* ports
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:51:24PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> >> Ah, I expected the candidates to take the 5 minutes it takes to get up
> >> to speed wrt the kFreeBSD ports by reading the appropriate status
> >> pages.
> > I can't be expected to know everything about Debian; in this particular
> > case, I didn't even know there *were* such status pages. If you could
> > give me a link, I wouldn't mind reading it and perhaps following up with
> > a better response.
> From my recollection, there even was such a page written for m68k at
> the time. As an m68k porter, I just thought you knew a couple of
> things about the whole archive qualification process and the
> associated wiki pages.
> I even find your name on
*That* is what you're talking about. Okay.
Still, the second paragraph in my initial response (which you happily
snipped away) explains what I think should be done about this: the DPL
should not be telling people what to do; rather, the people involved
(porters, release managers, and ftpmasters) should discuss together what
the current state is; they should outline the work required to get from
the current state of affairs to the desired state; and *they*, not the
DPL, should come up with a plan to fix this.
If you're asking *me* for an estimate, then I'd say a few months after
the release of etch does not sound unreasonable. But it's not my call to
> My point is, you did not have to reply today, so you could have taken
> the time to google for it or to ask around on IRC to get /some/
> information about the whole thing.
On the other hand, in all fairness you'll have to agree that you did not
exactly give a lot of information or context either. Sure, I can look
that up myself, but if I need to spend ten minutes for just *finding*
context information (let alone *reading* it) for every question on this
mailinglist, then I'll never be able to answer all of them. I had to
google around and ask around for your statement that "ftpmasters were
charging an amount of money to include amd64", too. Not everyone
remembers these things, especially not if they don't consider them to be
a big deal, as was the case for me. If you would have just added a link
to the relevant pages and/or Message-ID's, I could much easier have
answered your question.
Anyway, EOT for me now -- I wasted way too much time on this thread
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