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Re: [AMENDMENT]: Release Etch now, with source-less but legal and freely licensed firmware

On Thursday 05 October 2006 11:43, Frank Küster wrote:
> first of all, I wonder why so few people from the teams involved take
> part in this discussion.  I assume one reason might be that they prefer
> IRC.  However, debian-vote is the list that's supposed to hold the
> important information for the vote, isn't it?

No, it is because everybody who is remotely reasonable (with a few 
exceptions who are mostly forced to stay involved because of their roles in 
the project) has long since become totally disgusted with this anal 
discussion and the people pushing it .

Instead of a simple GR that leaves the decision with what is acceptable for 
Etch with the Release Managers, we now have a convoluted proposal that 
tries to do a lot more than was ever intended.
So, no, I will not support the current proposal (though I may vote for it). 
And, no, I am no longer interested in participating in the discussion, 
seeing as it is completely dominated by people I don't agree with anyway, 
who don't seem to be able to listen to arguments nor have any sense of what 
the majority of the project actually wants.

IANAL, but at least I don't act like I am, like some others in this 
discussion who seem so unbelievably sure that _they_ are right and so, of 
course, nobody else can be.
I have much more confidence in the more general consensus displayed by 
upstream and _all_ other distributions that firmware blobs *are* 
distributable under the GPL (of course, if there are individual 
drivers/firmware for which that is in doubt, this should be investigated, 
but I've lost any faith in the ability of people involved with debian-legal 
to provide an unbiased opinion on that).

I'm willing to discuss if they are free or non-free according to the DFSG 
and the SC, and will argue that Debian should allow (at least limited) 
support for these types of files. The current discussion in no way helps 
the release of Etch.

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