On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 10:47:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:07:02 +0200, Robert Millan <zeratul2@wanadoo.es> said: > > > Seems like the use of the word "limited" is ambigous. Any amount of > > time is "limited" by a greater one. > > I am willing to trust that people implementing the release > policies are reasonably competent, and shall not be working against > the spirit of a foundation document. It's fine if you are willing to trust, but I certainly am not and I don't think it's generaly reasonable to assume current and future release managers aren't likely to interpret a foundation document textualy while disregarding its spirit ("verba volant scripta manent"). Specialy because the release managers are not delegated directly or indirectly by the Developers (as they should be). Take the position of our current release manager as example. Anthony Towns recently said this: "Developers are asked to read/agree with/support/obey the social contract as part of the new maintainer process, but beyond that there's no requirement that they treat the social contract with more respect than, say, debian-policy, _except_ in so far as we're not allowed to change it except through a 3:1 vote." (from http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/05/msg00399.html) > So limited is whatever > reasonable time it is that it takes for us to meet the directives of > the social contract. That definition is better, but the current wording doesn't imply it. I still have reservations on what the interpretation of "reasonable" could be, though. For example, I don't think it is reasonable even for those who support proposal E that the new SC isn't enforced after Sarge, and that not only Sarge but also Sarge+1 releases with non-free firmware and docs of questionable DFSG-compliance. However, proposal E would delegate that decision to the RM. Could you ammend proposal E to require that up-to-date compliance with SC is archived after a reasonable period of time after release, and in no case lagged for two consecutive releases? If you can fix that ambiguity, then I'll find your proposal reasonable and will second it. (I still prefer proposal F though, but that's beside the point) -- Robert Millan "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he gives and hoards not, and is free from care, passing ever on to some new work." -- J.R.R.T., Ainulindale (Silmarillion)
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