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Re: A(nother) question to the candidates



"Benj. Mako Hill" <mako@debian.org> writes:

> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 02:14:39PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote:
>> I have seen lots of discussions about CDD and splitting up Debian
>> into a core and more-or-less independent topic specific sections
>> recently. While I can perfectly understand the motivation behind
>> these discussions, I have one particular "fear" in this direction.
>> To the candidates: What do you think how we should determine which
>> software components go into the core system, and which have to go
>> into separately provided "distros"?  On which criteria, in our
>> opinion, should we base those decisions?
>
> I'm not sure who is advocating this vision of CDDs your question seems
> to be related to.
>
> AIUI the dominant CDD vision (the one being pushed by
> Debian-Edu/Skolelinux, Debian-NP, and some others) is a framework that
> allows people to create Custom Distribution *fully* within a Debian
> system through two types of work (the technology people are using
> right now is different but we all think it would be great to work on a
> common infrastructure as well):
>
> (1) Custom package selection: some people are big on tasks; others
>     like Meta-Packages; others are happy with a list of packages
>     passed to the installer and never referred to again.
>
> (2) Custom package configuration. The only compelling solution I've
>     heard of to do this within Debian is the addition of low-priority
>     or un-asked Debconf questions to existing packages.
>
> Now obviously, achieving these goals is going to take some time and
> those of us that would like usable distros in the near future are
> going to need to find (and in fact have found) interim solutions.
>
> More information is on our wiki page:
>   http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?CustomDebian

Thanks for this clarification.  It definitely sounds good to me
if the long-term goal at least is to integrate the results of such work
back into Debian.

> In any case, I don't know know of any CDD developers who are
> advocating breaking up Debian into a core system and other bits. I
> have heard something like this discussed in terms of making releases
> more easy by limiting a release to a small core part of the
> distro. CDDs may have been brought up in this regard.

Yes, it seems I fell victim to the confusion you mentioned above.
I should really get it into my head that CDD is a kind of a trademark,
not just a name for a concept.  I tend to think abut all the
splitting ideas as CDD, simply because "Custom" is a good word for any kind
of customisation, not necessarily limited to the ones that are
fed back into the original tree.

> Quite honestly, I think there's *way* too much overlap between different
> CDDs to make this sort of division very practical.

Thats what I've read other people say too.

OK, thanks to you and Gergely for taking the time to reply,
and my appologies to all others for even raising this issue
at such an inappropriate point of time.  I had no evil intentions,
I can assure you.

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