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Re: Subject: Proposal - keep non-free, but commit to actively encouraging making individual packages obsolet

On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 02:47:49AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> > > As Debian does not develop arbitrary non-debian related software (from a
> > > hive-mind perspective, individual DDs might very well do, but we can't
> > > tell them what to do anyway), this change would alter the technical
> > > direction of the project a fair bit, IMHO.

On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 10:51:05PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> > In principle, we [as a project] do not develop software at all.
> > Projects like dpkg, alien, apt, and so on are all carried out by
> > individual developers, on the initiative of individual developers.
> > But maybe that contradicts that principle.

On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 04:43:30PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Well, projects like Gnome and KDE get packaged on the initiative
> of individual developers too. katie and debbugs get written on the
> initiative of individual developers too. I don't think it's reasonable
> to say "Debian" isn't about doing either of those things, though.

Hmm... ok, but while every debian "developer" manages packages,
only a few develop software we use.

> > Probably I should have used wording which does not seem to require that
> > debian actually develop anything.
> It's not really reasonable to "require" anything; that's the principle
> implied by us all being volunteers.

Yeah, that too.

> IMHO, the social contract's about what we won't do, and what we aspire
> to doing. We're aiming to create a free operating system. We won't hide
> problems. We won't discriminate against people, even people who want to
> use our resources to help them run non-free software. Etc.




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