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Re: The "Free" vs. "Non-Free" issue



On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:11:40 +0000, Andrew Suffield <asuffield@debian.org> said: 

> I'm not going to respond to that, other than to point out that it is
> based on the assumption that non-free is important and useful.

	Someone thought it important enough to sp[end time tracking
 down the sources, packaging it to follow Debian policy, and follow
 and fix bug reports.

	Yes, I think that not only free programs have cornered the
 market for being useful and important (unless you are a zealot, when
 this is all moot anyway).

>> > If there were evidence of the existence of other significant
>> > opinions, sure, we could write them into the ballot. If any
>> > appear, we still can. But there hasn't been, and I don't buy the
>> > silent majority theory, since it's almost impossible to get
>> > Debian developers to shut up at the best of times.
>>
>> If you are unwilling to discuss issues, how can other nascent
>> opinions develop?

> I don't believe that it is necessary for people to talk to *me*
> before they can form opinions about things.

	So butt out. We are trying to have a discussion going here,
 trying to decide on the worth of the proposal. If you have nothing to
 add, by all means take a back seat. Don't try and shut down
 discussion.

>> I like to keep my promise, is all. I am not implying, though, that
>> other people share my opinion, or that they should; nor am I
>> implying that people who want to get rid of non-free software are
>> breaking their promise.  This is a subjective issue, and I am
>> stating my take on it.

shrug> Clauses 1 and 5 of the social contract are in conflict
> anyway. I'm not greatly concerned by moving the line.

	No. They are only in conflict if you have a black and white
 world view. And, despite not believing in absolutes, I still do not
 like moving the line on a whimsy, without even discussiong an
 amelioration of the imact on the users.

	manoj
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