Previously Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > The Proposal is Counter to the Social Contract > ~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ If you read the social contract you'll see that the very first point is `Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software'. In my opinion that means that adding a slight inconvenience (especially now that we have tools like dpkg-http and apt) is a minor price to pay for the benefits we will get. > The proposal may violate the spirit of section 5 of the Social Contract > <http://www.debian.org/social_contract> which says that non-free and > contrib are not a part of The Debian Distribution but that Debian will use > its resources to support them as a service to its users. I don't see where we would violate this section. We will still have an archive with non-free and contrib and we will still use our normal resources for them. They will be in a seperate location though. > It is Only the Start.. > ~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~~ I already answered this in a response to a post from Joseph Carter. > Too Specific > ~~~ ~~~~~~~~ > The proposal does not set any sort of general rule but addresses a single > problem with a single site. Even after voting the question will still > remain if anything should be done with non-us, the web site and other > places the contain references that may confuse users about the separation > that exists. I realized too late that non-US should have been included in the proposal. I intend to send an ammendment this week to fix that. For web-sites, documentation, etc. I don't feel currently that removing references to non-free and contrib is the way to go. Hiding those does not help us. Making the distinction clearer does. > Cost > ~~~~ I'm aware of the costs involved. I'm also confident that we'll find a way to get the proper resources. The biggest problem I foresee currently is simply manpower. > Ultimately for this point it is a personal matter of when the cost exceeds > the value. Agreed. Wichert. -- ============================================================================== This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: wichert@cs.leidenuniv.nl WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/
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