On 2025-12-12 at 10:16, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 08:30:22AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > >> I wrote: >>> Text logs can be read with any of half a dozen or so commands in >>> my path. They can be read with busybox. They can be read on >>> systems lacking Systemd. They can be read on other operating >>> systems. >> >> tomás writes: >>> I'd bet that any of those are using the sd_journal programming >>> interface, thus link to libsystemd0. >> >> Why would simple editors such as nano use that interface? It has >> nothing to do with text files. Busybox depends only on libc6. >> Busybox-static depends on nothing. libsystemd0 is not present on >> Devuan, FreeBSD, or Microsoft Windows. All of the above can be used >> to read text files. Which ones can read systemd journals? > > I'll take your word that nano can view systemd journal files > (although I haven't checked). But I can't believe they have an own, > independent implementation until I see it. > > Same for busybox. ...I think there must be a miscommunication here. Where do you get the idea that John is saying that nano, busybox, etc., can view systemd journal files? I read him as saying that those tools can all be used to view plain-text log files, and that the fact that so many tools can do so is a reason to prefer plain-text log file storage formats, whereas the fact that so few tools can read systemd journal files is a reason to not prefer that log file storage format. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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