On Jul 14, 2025, Greg wrote: > On 2025-07-14, Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote: > > Greg (HE12025-07-12): > >> That's fine as long as you realize you are in the vast minority. > > > > As long as you acknowledge that not being in the majority is not a flaw > > in any way… > > I do completely acknowledge that. > > >> The thrust of the OP seems to be directed towards the *majority* of > >> *new* users, who ain't gonna be using Gnus to read this mailing list, > >> please get real. > > > > So, you would have a webforum with new users asking questions and > > experienced users who could give answers still on the mailing-list. > > There is such a thing as an irresolvable problem. I think new users > likely to be using desktop environments, whereas the old dinosaurs hold > them in a certain disdain. It is also possible a new user might not know > how to use or navigate a mailing list. I'm hardly a "new" user anymore ... but I figured out mailing lists in the 2010s (which, consequently, is after I got a "real job(tm)" and got a real handle on "why email matters"). The hardest part for anyone would be configuring their mail client (also something I learned on the job -- "I can automatically move stuff out of the inbox???"). > > Anyway, everything's simple as pie once you know how to do it. Getting > from here to there is left as an exercise many people don't have the > time or the inclination to take. Some people simply aren't interested in > the topic of computers in the same way they're not interested in the > mechanics of internal-combustion engines. They buy the car and when it's > broken they go to Joe's Automotive in Culver City. I have done "basic" work on a car before (oil change, etc.). Honestly, when Joe's Automotive over there does the same job for about the same price, AND I don't have to haul off the old fluids for disposal... > > > Is it a underhanded plan to have the experienced users quietly by > > themselves? > > I think that's already happened, more or less. The issue is that to get > my wife to use Debian it would need to be preinstalled [...] But that's why she has you, right? :) Only reason my wife's not on linux (anymore) is because the new paper-cutter thing (by cricut) needs windows-only drivers and I'm not allowed to take it apart and start probing around. ... but also their whole website is bogus and with my luck would ALSO do some user-agent checks now. Ugh, why is everything a web-app :( -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
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