Bump: systemd version 256.7-2 on Debian testing disabled UTMP support
Hi Luca, everybody,
any comment from your side on below mail or a general pointer on
"the future of Debian and utmp"?
Thanks
Jens
On 2024-11-06 21:18, Jens Schmidt wrote:
> [I hope this is the right way to address this question - apologies
> if not or if I have overlooked an existing discussion ...]
>
> systemd version 256.7-2 on Debian disabled UTMP support (from the
> Debian changelog):
>
> ,----
> | [ Luca Boccassi ]
> | * systemd-boot: depend on systemd for kernel-install (Closes: #1085012)
> | * Disable utmp support, not y2038 safe. utmp support in tmux has been
> | disabled, so autopkgtest should no longer break
> | * Backport fixes for upstream autopkgtest suite
> `----
>
> As a result, no `utmp' file is created on systems having that version
> of systemd installed. However, utmp(5) states that
>
> ,----
> | Unlike various other systems, where utmp logging can be disabled by re‐
> | moving the file, utmp must always exist on Linux. [...]
> `----
>
> And at least on my system I get the following errors logged in my
> journal:
>
> ,----
> | [ 24.434215] host01 lightdm[2087]: Failed to write utmpx: No such file or directory
> | [...]
> | [ 30.866566] host01 systemd[2094]: Started app-xterm1fxd.service - /home/farblos/bin/lwsdi shutdown "FVWM Child" "Wait for explicit exit" block xterm -name xterm1fxd -title "XTerm 1".
> | [ 31.026661] host01 utempter[2538]: [ppid=2536] pututline: No such file or directory
> `----
>
> Since:
>
> - I'd like to get rid of these warnings/errors,
> - I'd like to have an `utmp' file that does *not* last across reboots
> and
> - I don't care (yet) about the Y2038 problem,
>
> I came up with file `/etc/tmpfiles.d/90-local-utmp.conf' containing
> what `/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/systemd.conf' previously provided, namely:
>
> ,----
> | f+! /run/utmp 0664 root utmp -
> `----
>
> Would that be the "correct" or "Debian-ish" way to provide an `utmp'
> file that fulfills my above requirements?
>
> And: Should users file Debian bugs against applications still relying
> on `utmp'? Or will there be some replacement for what systemd has
> provided?
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