On 6/21/23 03:01, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 2:24 AM Maurice Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:On 6/20/23 22:17, paulf@quillandmouse.com wrote:On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:03:24 -0400 Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote: [...]In a sensible design, the GUI part would run as you, and it would send requests to a daemon that runs as root, or simply issue shell commands with "sudo" or something, to do the parts that need extra privs.I infer that Synaptic, by requiring root privileges to be truly useful, is mis-designed, since there isn't a daemon executing root level commands in the background.I'll not argue with that. But for the lists benefit, my last msg indicated I was going to logout and back in. Which I tried to do, but with a root pw set, or something else, IDK and don't at this point care because the only damned way I can login is as root!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So since I was root, and the screen looked normal for a different account, I tested synaptic and it ran as root just fine, so I took advantage of it, found the tasks section and installed all of gnome and all of kde, to the extent that the task pulled in several hundred packages each time for each interface. And it didn't make a fat rats ass of difference EXCEPT if I su me, then cd /home/gene, nothing with a gui can be run as me, display 0:0 is locked away from me, in essence reversing the can't open display errors I was getting as me for sudo-ing to do gui and root requiring tasks. Explain that. I can change my (gene's) pw to anything and back successfully, but its no damned good at the login requester. I'm sorry if I sound exasperated but that is exactly where I am. Luckily I remembered the pw at my isp or I would not be sending this. I gave up and went to bed about 22:00 but was so frustrated I couldn't sleep. So I'm back up wih 4x4's under my eyelids but I'm alive.Who are you? I thought a person named Gene was having trouble. Why are you logging in as gene? Are you gene?
Yes, and I can su to me from this root login, successfully update my pw, but when I try to login in as gene, I do not get a bad pw error, the requester goes away for about a second, then comes back as a blank requestor again. The only change in my raid10 during this time was a relink of the digiKam AppImage to regression test it, it ran fine, and can see the thumbnails from the mounted camera, but attempts to download fresh images I can see, silently fails. I haven't tried as root because the local picture archive is on that raid10, owned by me so I've been careful not to cause a write to the raid except for editing the symlink to ~/AppImages/digiKam.
I have a gent on the Sheldon list at groups.io who would like to see how I solved a broke into pieces compound on my bigger lathe, linuxcnc can do all that and then some w/o a compound, so mine is now a block of a cast iron, machined to be the same height as the broken compound with a quick change tool holder on top of it. Because the net-installer does not identify the drives its going to format, and formating the raid cannot be permitted, all that stuff has to be removed and a reinstall done to only the sata_1 drive, it takes me a couple hours on my hands and knees to dismantle all that to protect it from the installs appetite to format everything in sight. Then about 2 hours to put it all back together when the install has been finished. At 88 yo, with about a 4 inch offset in my back from scoliosis plus a couple crushed discs with the accompanying siatic pain, that is not a pleasant task.
But since I'm stuck in root, and my history with that net-installer is spotty at best, please give me a link to the bookworm net-install image, which I'll then dl and put on a fresh dvd, maybe it will work better than the 11.2 version I've been using. One of the things it still does is install orca and brltty w/o asking even if that option is skipped in the menu.
So, a direct link to the bookworm net-install please. And thank you. Gene Heskett
Jeff .