Re: Proprietary WiFi drivers for live mode
I've reinserted the opening line of the post I replied to.
On Sun 26 Jun 2022 at 17:14:23 (+0200), tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 09:28:21AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Sun 26 Jun 2022 at 09:07:11 (+0200), Hans wrote:
> > >
> > > In your case I would suggest to build your own lifefile system with live-
> > > build.
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > I am doing all this, when building kali-linux live-system, which building is
> > > almost the same as a debian-live system.
> > >
> > > Give it a try, maybe it helps.
> >
> > Sorry, but I can't see the attraction of a live system, as opposed to
> > just building the Debian system on a stick. Care to explain?
>
> If I understand correctly, a live system
>
> - is thought to cope with a broader range of hardware (meaning: it
> doesn't know exactly which hardware it's going to wake up on next)
That was my point—we know what the target system is
here: /the/ old Dell laptop, to be used by a
non-programming/configuring/commandline-user person.
> - is not supposed to touch the host system persistent storage (aka
> disks)
That's something we apparently don't have to worry about, as it has no
hard drive, so it can only touch what is deliberately inserted into it
at the time.
> - is not supposed to scribble on its own medium (unless you've set
> aside a partition for that)
Presumably, the OP will occasionally upgrade the OS-on-the-stick;
perhaps when they notice a point-release on their own machine.
> Perhaps it just has a tmpfs overlaid on its file system, so any change
> is only ephemeral.
>
> so it is a slightly different usage profile than tailor-fitting a USB
> stick for a given target system.
>
> Both have their uses.
Agreed, in different circumstances.
On Sun 26 Jun 2022 at 11:47:46 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Sorry, but I can't see the attraction of a live system, as opposed to
> > just building the Debian system on a stick. Care to explain?
>
> Speaking as someone who's used such a "Debian system on a stick" as
> a kind of replacement for a Debian live (mostly as a rescue
> environment, really): I suspect the attraction is that Debian Live has
> already been tuned for that use case (I had to make various minor
> changes to fix annoyances when "moving" the stick between systems), and
As above, the stick is for running on just the one, old Dell, laptop.
> more importantly that it shouldn't get corrupted just because you
> unplugged the stick at an "unfavorable" time.
>
> I've had to "redo" my stick a few times and I strongly suspect it was
> because USB sticks aren't very reliable when it gets to unplugging them
> while in the middle of a write (and a normal Debian install can write
> to your stick without your explicit prompting, of course).
With careful partitioning, the damage can be limited, by making /usr
and /etc readonly, with /var separate, /tmp and any swap in memory, etc.
> Note: this was my experience almost 10 years ago. Not sure it's
> still relevant. And technically, I still think a normal Debian install
> tweaked to be more like Debian Live should be superior.
Cheers,
David.
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