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Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]



Hi,

On 2021-06-30 4:32 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 29 iun 21, 17:08:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>>
>> I can only hope that one day someone will knock you off with a shovel in
>> the face because you said something wrong. This will be a great day and
>> you'll get back what you serve to others.
> 
> Seriously?
>  
Yes, whatever great idea you have, even if others are wrong in what they
say. Nothing justify being rude and lacking respect.

I never used any swearing word on this mailing list and it won't be part
in any of my arguments.

>> This is a figure of speech, we all agree.
> 
> No, I don't agree. Please don't speak for others.
> 
> As far as I'm concerned it's just inappropriate -- regardless of whether 
> the other party also stepped out of line -- and you claiming it's "just" 
> a figure of speech doesn't make it better.
>  
>> A great man doesn't only try to find mistake others do, he also act with
>> decency and respect.
> 
> Hmm...
> 
Sometime you have the best software solution in the world but the
community around it make people go away.
Sadly, it's what I'm seeing here and this is far from what I expected.

Even if "Greg's" right about unsafe solution, this doesn't mean that all
the solutions will be unsafe. If I run my network behind a firewall and
don't allow outside connection then I can use xhost + or unblock all the
port on my machine, if I feel like it.

Don't get messed up, computer science ain't physic or chemistry. It's
all a question of personal choice, of the will to take risk, of our own
priority, etc. It's far from an exact science (if we can call this a
science). It's closer to liberal arts than to hard science like
chemistry, physics or mathematics.

So if someone think he's got it all right then maybe it's because the
ego's too big. You can run your box the way you want, as long it gives
you what you like.

And I'll give you a example...
I've heard many and many more time people telling me it was "not the way
to do" by creating many different partitions for my hard drive, having a
/tmp, /usr/local, /home, /var, /tmp, etc. Maybe for them it's wrong but
for me, it does the job and even prevent some problem when my GF fill up
her laptop's home partition.

And yes, sometime I did use xhost + because it was easy to do when
running over our home network. Even more that we have a computer that
serve as a router and filter everything, there's was nearly no risk that
someone could "call-in" and connect to the X server from the outside.

I'll tell you a little story about the "Oh it's so great computer and
what we do with them".
Around 2018 I had to go see a conference on Elasticsearch and Logstash
during the IETF 2018 meeting that was in Montreal. Everyone was amazed
with that "solution" being able to give you exact logs for the last
month and doing "day average" after this. All automatic ! WoW they said...

Really ?

In 1982 my father in-law did his master degree in geophysics, analysis
of waveform. He developed an algorithm that does an average over long
period but keep individual values for short periods. This way you get
both the trends and important individual variation. This was somewhat
the same algorithm than LogStash was doing....

So yes, I get pretty upset when I see people thinking they are so great
because they think they found a fault in someone's explanation and just
want to show they are so great by pointing it out.

There's nothing of a genius in finding people's error. But what's a
genius is to use our knowledge in context and express it wit
consideration to other's context.

Maybe if he'd have asked "is this for the purpose of learning" before
acting out then he would have received the answer "yes".

Because all this started by giving some way of using X11 that will allow
the end-user to also learn how the inner work does. Because if you use
ssh -X then yes it will work most of the time but you won't get the
knowledge of how it does. This will make you clueless the day there's a
small glitch in ssh. Because in some way, ssh -X does two thing :
setup the DISPLAY variable
redirect some port so that the session appears local to the client.

I'm ain't the one who said "this is f****cking stupid" or a sentence of
this kind.

So sorry for all those virgin ears who dislike my figure of speech.

Like my dad says, sometime a good kick in the butt give you much more to
learn than reading two books.

This is now over for myself.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> 
Cheer,

Sincerely,
-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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