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Re: Plasma can be a lightweight



Felix Miata composed on 2021-03-10 05:33 (UTC-0500):

> Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z composed on 2021-03-09 19:00 (UTC-0400):
 										
>> I have been reading throughout the Web
>> that Xfce4 is not so lightweight as it was before.
>> Apparently, its performance is comparable to that of KDE
>> or GNOME.
 										
> This may be where that came from:
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrvJOXypAbk>

> Here's a simple look at RAM before and after first launching IceWM, then
> rebooting, then a freshly installed Plasma session on an old single core PC that
> had had only KDE3 and IceWM on TW.

> # inxi -CGIMy
> Machine:
>   Type: Desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex GX280 v: N/A serial: 20HRT71
>   Mobo: Dell model: N/A serial: .. . BIOS: Dell v: A07 date: 11/29/2005
> CPU:
>   Info: Single Core model: Intel Pentium 4 bits: 32 type: MCP L2 cache: 1024 KiB
>   Speed: 2793 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2793
> Graphics:
>   Device-1: Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
>   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: loaded: intel
>   unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz
>   OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 915G x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.4 Mesa 20.3.4
> Info:...Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.01

> # free		# before launching startx into IceWM
>                total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
> Mem:         1525408       51264     1313580        1552      160564     1293900
> Swap:        1036156           0     1036156
> # free		# after launching startx into IceWM and Xterm
>                total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
> Mem:         1525408       71732     1213716       14980      239960     1259048
> Swap:        1036156           0     1036156
> 			   20468 used by IceWM
> # inxi -Sy
> System:
>   Host: gx28b Kernel: 5.7.11-1-default i686 bits: 32
>   Desktop: IceWM 2.1.1 Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20210307
> 
> I rebooted before launching Plasma and Konsole on the same PC:
> # free		# before launching startx into virgin Plasma installation
>                total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
> Mem:         1525568       51536     1305632        8444      168400     1286812
> Swap:        1036156           0     1036156
> # free		# after launching startx into virgin Plasma installation
>                total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
> Mem:         1525568      188264      899976       51360      437328     1103940
> Swap:        1036156           0     1036156
> 			  136728
> # inxi -Sy
> System:
>   Host: gx28b Kernel: 5.7.11-1-default i686 bits: 32
>   Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.21.1 Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20210307

> No, it's not Debian. I never put Plasma on my Debians, which all use TDE. This was
> a freshly updated Tumbleweed, so the Plasma version is fresh. There's no XFCE on
> it. It won't be added either, as there's nothing about it I like better than KDE3,
> TDE or Plasma, and the disk has no room for more additions, worthwhile or
> otherwise. Thus, the difference between XFCE and Plasma or IceWM will need a
> different PC.

> The point is, Plasma can be rather lean, using only 116260 more than IceWM to get
> a basic session started.

The following isn't directly comparable to the above, as the Plasma installation
and user are anything but fresh. However, it is a minimal, and started up in same
manner, just on 64 bits instead of 32, and the same Plasma version on the same OS
release, with 270996 instead of 136728 used to start a session:

# fresh boot to multi-user before startx into Plasma & Konsole
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:         3934880       92840     3612164        9912      229876     3601836
Swap:        4200428           0     4200428
# after startx into Plasma & Konsole
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:         3934880      363836     3040312       75688      530732     3250656
Swap:        4200428           0     4200428
			  270996 used by Plasma & Konsole
# inxi -CGIMSy
System:
  Host: gx745 Kernel: 5.10.16-1-default x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.21.1 Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20210307
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 745 v: N/A serial: 901DSC1
  Mobo: Dell model: 0GX297 serial: ..CN6986173Q1835. BIOS: Dell v: 2.6.2
  date: 08/12/2008
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 6700 bits: 64 type: MCP L2 cache: 4 MiB
  Speed: 1715 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1715 2: 2105
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: loaded: modesetting
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1200~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965Q (BW) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.4
Info:...Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.01

This CPU is one year older than the thread OP's Conroe 2.33GHz E6550,
a Conroe 2.67GHz E6700.

Another difference I expected was that though both are on Dells using integrated
Intel video, the shared RAM used by video likely was more on the 64 bit, because
of the difference between 1680x1050 and 1920x1200 displays used. the 64 only has
DVI and VGA to choose from, and used DVI, while the 32 has the same outputs, but
it's display only has VGA and DisplayPort, so had to use VGA. So, I retested the
32 with the other display and VGA instead of DVI. Used only went from 188264 to
188844, +580. :P
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