Re: Package management
On Friday, July 03, 2020 10:34:19 AM David Wright wrote:
> Have you tried out your suggestion?
I guess you're talking to me, and the answer is no, I haven't. And I have
read the rest of your email.
When I first came to Linux, the way I decided on my initial distro (which,
iirc, was Mandrake, but maybe SuSE was before that), I collected installation
disks from all the distros I could find by attending things like LUG meetings
(where I got them free), computer shows (either the selling kind (where I had
to pay for distros, or maybe the hobbyist display type show (where, again, I
often got some free).
Then I simply inserted them in my computer, one after the other -- with each
one, I tried to install it, and, if it installed, I tried running some apps,
and, if it looked decent, I used it (until I found something that bothered
me), and then I'd try another distro.
I will say that, back in those days (ca. 2000) I didn't like Debian or GNOME.
I still don't like GNOME the default color scheme was dark, the logo looked
fuzzy, and overall, things were just hard to see. My problem with Debian
(which has gone away now), was, in those days, they asked some really esoteric
questions during the install, like the make and model of your disk controller.
Oh, almost forgot, some install disks I downloaded from various sources.
Downloading a CD (with my 33.6 kbps modem) took something like 63 hours -- I'd
do that over the course of 4 or 5 nights -- when I and my family stopped using
our computers for the night, I'd start the download -- when we woke up and
started using computers, I'd stop the download, then resume that night, and so
on.
I wouldn't be bothered by having to install 2000 packages / 8.6 GB, especially
if I thought it would help me get jump started on something.
(Aside: iirc, rsync didn't yet exist (or I wasn't aware of it) at the time I
started downloading things like that -- I was thrilled when I found rsync and
could resume a problem download without starting over from the beginning.)
;-)
regards,
Randy Kramer
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> My system has just over 2000 packages installed. It can record, it has
> a few players, and it has some audio applications for processing WAVs,
> MP3s, MIDI, etc. I have all those mentioned by the OP except vlc (which
> therefore gets included below). /usr occupies 8.6GB.
>
> There are 27 multimedia-* packages in buster/main (see Didier's list),
> so I simulated installing them. I won't post the console log as it's
> 280kB, but here's a digest:
>
> NOTE: This is only a simulation!
> apt-get needs root privileges for real execution.
> Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
> so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
> Reading package lists...
> Building dependency tree...
> Reading state information...
> The following additional packages will be installed:
> [ 361 lines ]
> Suggested packages:
> [ 143 lines ]
> Recommended packages:
> [ 11 lines ]
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> [2 packages ]
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> [ 369 lines ]
>
> 0 upgraded, 1818 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>
> Seriously, who do you want to inflict this on.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
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