Re: Buster without systemd? [with backtrack]
On Thu 26 Mar 2020 at 08:03:38 (+0100), deloptes wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
>
> Well I do not know o use systemd-networkd, so your assumption is not
> correct. It was meant and in the context of some kind of GUI be it CLI or X
OK, so I completely misinterpreted what the "it" referred to in
your response to Andrei ("I find it amazing how *it* works").
We'd been talking about the increasing "desires" of systemd,
including "[to] manage network interfaces", ie systemd-networkd,
which was specifically mentioned by Andrei. NetworkManager had
only cropped up in a list of examples of other software, so
I wasn't aware we were changing subject.
That's cleared that up.
> > I don't want a desktop. In fact, wicd doesn't even need X, as it can
> > run quite happily on a VC to configure a new AP.
> >
> > When I return to somewhere I have been before, wicd (the daemon)
> > usually connects before I have typed my passphrase to unlock /home.
> > (That assumes I'm logging in.)
>
> This is good that you have something useful and you can work with it. Please
> do not impose to others. Everybody is free to use whatever suits the needs
> the best.
Where do you get the idea that I'm imposing anything on anyone?
I just wrote what I don't use (system-networkd) and what I do
(wicd), and gave my reason, something that people often overlook
when they suggest software. (Look at the thread "how to keep 2 PCs
partially in sync" for example.)
> May be 10y ago I've used wicd several time. In my world all GTK is ... well
> crap. I do not know why people want to write something like this in C, but
> on the other hand if it works - it works.
I've never used wicd-gtk so, as well as not talking about NetworkManager,
I'm not talking about GTK, nor about what is or isn't written in C.
I use wicd-curses, a TUI that runs, as I wrote, on VCs as well as X.
I have no idea what language(s) wicd and curses are written in, and
that played no part in my decision of what to use.
> Anyway this is my personal opinion. If you ask Torvald about C++ he has the
> same opinion as me about C.
> It is good that there are different opinions
Sure, but I wonder why you interpret my posts as complaints, or as
impositions on other people. Especially in a thread about systemd,
which always seems to bring out the worst in some people. I'm neutral
on systemd, and use it because Debian does. Having used Debian since
its first release, I'm still quite happy to run with their choices.
Cheers,
David.
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