On 2019-08-06 at 02:18, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 3/8/19 3:39 am, Etienne Mollier wrote: > >> Since you are coming from the VirtualBox world, I would suggest to >> check out the package "virt-manager" which provides a GUI allowing >> to drive your KVM virtual machines. You may find more details >> about this program on its homepage: >> >> https://virt-manager.org/ > > > Thanks Etienne > > I have looked at kvm/qmeu a few times but balked at the process. This > suggestion has made it viable. > > Thank you. I tried this out myself recently, but couldn't get it to work; it reports that "libvirtd is installed but not running". As far as I can tell, the problem boils down to the fact that I refuse to have libpam-systemd installed, which means that I can't install policykit-1, which means that I can't install libvirt-daemon-system, which means libvirtd doesn't get run automatically. I tried starting it by hand, as root, but it exits immediately because the user 'libvirt-qemu' does not exist; that's apparently expected behavior, and that user is supposed to be created and set up appropriately by libvirt-daemon-system; see bug #768000. The documentation seems to indicate that it's supposed to be possible to run the daemon as non-root, and indeed I've been able to start it that way; however, virt-manager doesn't seem to see the daemon when it's run that way. (I don't remember how, but I tracked down something which seems to indicate that it's checking explicitly for the existence of the PID file under /run or /var/run, and of course when running as an ordinary user the PID file gets created under $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR instead because non-root can't write to /run/.) I tried specifying explicit connection URLs via File -> Add Connection, as suggested in the error message (presumably for cases where the daemon to connect to is running on a different computer), but all I managed to get was errors indicating that it hadn't found anything to connect to. Has anyone managed to get virt-manager working on Debian without the libvirt-daemon-system package installed? (I suspect that trying to report the failure to work without libpam-systemd present as a bug would be dismissed on the grounds that trefusing to have that installed is an excessively idiosyncratic configuration which it's not reasonable to expect the maintainers to have to support.) -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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