Re: Don't disable recoomends by default
On Fri 12 Jul 2019 at 12:24:49 -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:34:17)
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29AM -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > Quoting Reco (2019-07-12 09:01:33)
> > > > > > Disabling installing Recommends by default also helps a great
> > > > > > deal with all those dependencies you don't want.
> > > > >
> > > > > Above may break your system in confusing to debug ways,
> > > >
> > > > Rly? Recommends are called that for a reason.
> > >
> > > Yes, and the reason is well defined: Packages requires in "all but
> > > unusual installations." - quoted from Debian Policy §7.2.
> >
> > This only shows us that one can prove anything by using selective
> > quoting. Full quote, btw is:
> >
> > This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
> > The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together
> > with this one in all but unusual installations.
> >
> >
> > Therefore Debian Policy explicitly says that Recommends are not
> > required.
>
> Sorry if you feel that I mislead you by quoting narrowly. I fail to
> recognize how your larger quote changes my point of mine, however.
>
> Indeed Debian policy do not _require_ recommendations. They do however
> recommend to install them except in unusual installations.
>
> Turning off recommendations is saying "this system is unusual in all
> possible ways" which I insist is wrong and bad advice!
I would like to bore everyone with my activities over the past few days.
There is a thin client; it has one task to do and has 945M of disk space
to do it in. Try it sometime.
I have to carefully read the outputs of 'apt show' and test. The default
package installation is with --no-install-recommends. Tedious and time-
consuming, but I get what I want. Miss a recommendation and I'm stuffed.
Are you an average user? Lots of disk space? Want a trouble-free system?
Stick with the default installing recommended packages advice.
--
Brian.
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