Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration
On Friday 05 July 2019 13:00:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 17:45:54)
>
> > On Friday 05 July 2019 07:34:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:54:05)
> > >
> > > > Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there
> > > > by dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media,
> > > > usually a u-sd, so you get that crap regardless and must
> > > > physically remove it before a staticly defined, hosts file based
> > > > network that has not had a functioning dhcpd server even in my
> > > > original 1998 install of red hat 5.0 will work.
> > >
> > > Please stop speading misinformation about how Debian is installed.
> > >
> > > Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer, also for
> > > boards using U-boot.
>
> Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer.
>
> > > See e.g. the user notes for Allwinner-based boards at
> > > https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Allwinner#Install_Using
> > >_Debian-Installer
> >
> > I have looked at that page, hoping to see some mention of the pi's
> > since the allwinner doesn't appear in their advertising as a hugely
> > important detail,
>
> Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer, regardless
> of the fact that Raspberry Pi does not use a System-on-Chip from
> Allwinner.
>
> > and I've had rather a zoo full of arm based boards here. But the pi
> > wasn't mentioned so I went on my way. I'm not even sure all the pi's
> > are allwinner based.
>
> Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer, regardless
> of the amount of boards you have piled up at home.
>
> > > It is true that you can leave it to others to prepare an
> > > installation for you, so that you only need to dump their
> > > pre-installed image onto your boot disk device - e.g. as done with
> > > the preview image for Raspberry Pi offered at
> > > https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi3.
> >
> > Does it actually work?
>
> Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer, regardless
> of how broken or not Raspberry Pi and/or Debian may be.
>
> > > It is also true that you can have others make a derivative of
> > > Debian and offer you that as a pre-installed image - e.g. as done
> > > by Raspbian and Armbian projects.
> > >
> > > The "crap" you get using unofficial pre-installed images is not on
> > > Debian but on those pre-installing and on you using those instead
> > > of Debian.
> >
> > This may be true, but how long will it take to get the new, faster
> > video drivers into your official version? Or will they ever get in?
>
> Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer, regardless
> of how frustratingly long time it takes reverse-engineer the
> closed-source parts of Raspberry Pi making it frustratingly difficult
> to use with Free software operating systems like Debian.
>
Somebody go jiggle that turntable, we've a bad case of a stuck needle
here :)
>
> - Jonas
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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