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Re: painted into a corner



On Sunday, August 19, 2018 5:51:24 PM -04 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 19 August 2018 17:15:43 Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 19, 2018 10:37:05 PM -04 john doe wrote:
> > > On 8/19/2018 9:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Greetings all;
> > > > 
> > > > I just installed stretch to a fresh 2T HD. letting it
> > > > autopartition and format for separate /, swap, /var and /home
> > > > partitions. But I didn't let it overwrite the grub on the 1st
> > > > drive it was/is  booting wheezy from.
> > > > 
> > > > I figured I'd mount it to wheezy and copy over my personal stuff,
> > > > like an email corpus well over 15GB reaching back to 2002.
> > > > 
> > > > But I can't mount much of the drive, / is all that will actually
> > > > mount, because the 2 versions of ext4 are incompatible, nearly all
> > > > the mount and e2tools can't touch the installers ext4 file
> > > > systems.
> > > > 
> > > > For instance, its not mounted:
> > > > gene@coyote:~$ e2fsck /dev/sdb8
> > > > e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
> > > > /dev/sdb8 has unsupported feature(s): metadata_csum
> > > > e2fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck!
> > > > 
> > > > And of course whats installed to wheezy is the latest available
> > > > wheezy version of e2fsck.
> > > > 
> > > > Whats the recommended way to do these mounts so I can maintain as
> > > > much continuity as possible?
> > > 
> > > Maybe using apt-pinning.
> > > 
> > > In other words, installing the version of Stretch/Jessie on wheezy.
> > > 
> > > On the wheezy host, can't you backupt on an external hardware?
> > 
> > In those cases I usually boot a recent live-CD (or USB-stick) like
> > KNOPPIX and mount and copy from there.
> 
> I just rebooted to it, and I found a desktop interface that will wear out
> a set of batteries in my mouse weekly because it takes at least 8 to 10
> clicks and some scroll wheel work just to find a #@%# terminal, and it
> can't even add tabs to a different shell either! I didn't install
> anything special for a desktop, took the default because I intended to
> replace it with TDE asap, and going from 10 workspaces, 4 of which have
> multi-tabbed (up to 7 tabs each) konsoles running on them, with a
> pulldown text menu to run half the stuff I run on the other workspaces,
> to a single window, single tasking system thats worse than the last
> windows box I was asked to configure the networking on, was very
> disheartening.  So I added the trinity stuff to /etc/apt/sources.list.d
> using mc to copy that from the old disk, changing the wheezy in the deb
> line to stretch, and that did not get me the TDE desktop I've been using
> for years, but did get me some sort of a warning window that was taller
> than my screen, fussing that some repo I hadn't added, was duff. If
> debian is trying to kill itself, it was a heck of a good start, not even
> a windows user looking for something better would be impressed.
> 
> The only thing that Just Worked was the networking, it took everything
> for a static net and Just Worked on the reboot.  That was a rather
> pleasant surprise considering the only stretch based install on my
> rock64's that works at all was armbian.  None of the other arm|hf|64
> *bians will accept a gateway assignment except as as a route command
> after a login.
> 
> I'm burned out for today, my cataracts might have to be the next thing I
> fix.
With KNOPPIX to do such simple things as copying don't boot into the X-Window.
On boot enter: knoppix 2
(look at the cheat code)
and you have text only
use mc if you must or want

Sorry but I don't have time to wade through rants ...
All the best
Eike


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