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Re: domain names, was: hostname



On Fri 23 Mar 2018 at 16:08:27 -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, March 23, 2018 03:13:54 PM Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 23 Mar 2018 at 12:01:42 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > I venture to suggest that many (most?) .home users will be using their
> > > ISP's smarthost, which would mean that the ISP (a) usually insist on
> > > authentication and (b) and likely to have issued the network name
> > > (like ip70-179-161-106.fv.ks.cox.net) themselves.
> > 
> > "most" is a very reasonable estimate. "insist" is less reasonable
> > because the user will already have had to be authenticated to be on
> > the network. There would be little point in cox.net asking for more
> > credentials to send mail. Once you are on my network, mail is just
> > a service offered to a user.
> 
> Just as a data point, the ISPs I have used over the years have all required 
> that my email client (talking to their smarthost, if I understand the 
> terminology being used here correctly) authenticate each time it connects to 
> receive or send email.  (The credentials (typically a password) are stored in 
> what I refer to as a "Windows style" email client (kmail is what I'm using 
> now, getting mail via pop3 and sending via smtp).
> 
> The ISPs (that I can remember off the top of my head) have included Fastnet, 
> RCN, and Earthlink.

Arrangements for *collecting* (I doubt smtp was being used to *receive*
mail) is different from sending mail.

Having authenticated to get on the network it is superfluous to ask for
further authentication to send mail (or browse the web), wouldn't you
say? But there users on these networks who could clarify the situation.

-- 
Brian.


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