On 15/03/18 13:11, David Christensen wrote: > On 03/14/18 00:28, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 14/03/18 15:35, David Christensen wrote: >>> On 03/13/18 17:00, Richard Hector wrote: >>>> Apologies for the diversion - does anyone know if there are USB flash >>>> drives that _are_ built for full-time use, as a system disk? >>>> >>>> I've got some old thin clients that could do with storage upgrades that >>>> are a bit easier to come by than the weird (PATA?) flash modules they >>>> come with. Obviously I could just hook up an external USB ssd, but I'd >>>> like to keep the small form factor if I can - then they can go inside >>>> the case. >>> >>> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=disk+on+module&t=ffsb&ia=web >>> >>> >>> http://www.memorydepot.com/ssd_diskonmodule.html >> >> Interesting, thanks - it appears that I could replace the existing >> module after all - and possibly add a SATA one, depending on which way >> round they are. I'm not entirely sure about the power situation though - >> there seem to be multiple ways of getting power through the data port; >> are they all backwards compatible? Does my system need to support it >> explicitly, or will any old sata port work? >> >> I see there are USB DOMs as well, but most/many of them want an internal >> header rather than a type A socket, which is all I have. And some of >> them say they're USB 3, backward compatible with USB 2 ... I'm not sure >> which of my ports are what standard; some of them may even be 1 ... >> >> Almost none of these seem to be available locally in New Zealand though, >> so I'd have to import something, which is a bit more of a hassle. > > There are many disk-on-module form (DOM) factors -- some are generic/ > standard form factors and others are vendor/ model specific. If your > thin clients already have PATA DOM's, look up the make/ model and > purchase compatible replacement/ upgrade parts. > > > I have never seen a USB 1 port. Most pre-USB 2.0 stuff is USB 1.1. Fair call - I should have said 1.x or something. :-) > I ran SanDisk Ultra Fit USB 3.0 16 GB flash drives as poor-man's SSD > system drives for several years, connected to motherboard type A USB > 3.0, 2.0, and 1.1 ports. I booted the Debian Installer on CD and > installed to the USB drive just like any other drive. Reads were > noticeably faster than HDD's, but moderate to heavy writes caused GUI > desktops to become choppy. I still keep two for diagnostic and rescue > use -- one with Debian i386 and the other with Debian amd64. I bought > them from Amazon, but some retailers might carry them. Ordinary usb flash drives are easy enough to get, and cheap. I should probably just try those (planning on 2 in raid). I'm not using them for anything GUI; the one I have running atm is an openvpn endpoint. There are many Sandisk and other options - I guess my main consideration is something slim enough that I can fit two in adjacent ports. Thanks, Richard
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