Re: Replace systemd
On 03-07-17, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> I run Debian on my laptops and several servers.
>
> On my laptop I've had several recent occasions when it has been irksome
> to try and find the cause of a service not starting or shutting down,
> and I've concluded that I'd like to move away from systemd as I don't
> like the binary log.
>
> This isn't a conceptual/design issue as I don't know enough of init
> fundamentals to make an informed judgement. It also isn't related to the
> recent Slashdot article about DNS crashes and root privs escalation.
> https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/07/03/0343258/severe-systemd-bug-allowed-remote-code-execution-for-two-years
> or the (possibly incorrectly reported) statements by Lennart Poettering
> noted at "What are the pros/cons of Upstart and systemd?"
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5877/what-are-the-pros-cons-of-upstart-and-systemd
>
> I additionally find the configuration and documentation off-putting.
> These are trivial points, but the classic /etc config files seem to be
> being replaced with ini style files with non-explicit defaults. The
> documentation is wordy and also sometimes obtuse. e.g. "To disable a
> configuration file supplied by the vendor, the recommended way is to
> place a symlink to /dev/null in the configuration directory" and
> repeated references to "vendors" (which is almost certainly the wrong
> word).
>
> Simply put; systemd doesn't suit me. Its a bit like being asked to use
> an graphical editor instead of vi. Or being forced to use Windows. My
> laptop doesn't feel like my machine anymore.
>
> Is there a pure Debian alternative?
>
> Thanks
> Rory
>
You can still use Debian without systemd as init. Explained here:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00538.html
If you would prefer that it is some derivate/fork of Debian without
systemd, I do not have personal experience with those, but I'm sure that
you will get few hints.
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