Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...
On Thu 06 Apr 2017 at 08:55:49 (+0000), Latincom wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Apr 2017 20:12:53 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>
> > Am 05.04.2017 um 20:05 schrieb Dan Ritter:
> >> On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 07:26:03PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> >>> Am 05.04.2017 um 17:04 schrieb Dan Ritter:
> >>>> On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 03:47:33PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 05:06:22AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
> >>>>>> Aside from being insulting, this is just plain untrue. There are
> >>>>>> well over 100,000 professional Linux sysadmins worldwide. I'd
> >>>>>> estimate that at least a third of them administer at least one -
> >>>>>> and probably more than one - systems that work better with
> >>>>>> sysvinit than with systemd.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That estimate sounds plucked out of the air to me.
> >>>>
> >>>> It certainly is.
> >>>>
> >>>> For example, I run on the order of a thousand servers that are
> >>>> running Wheezy because we haven't managed a smooth transition to
> >>>> Jessie yet, and systemd is a large part of that problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> what problems exactly do you have which are caused by systemd?
> >>
> >> We have our own applications, built over the last 19 years, that are
> >> managed by sysvinit scripts which are handled by a configuration
> >> management system that we built and open-sourced before Chef or Puppet
> >> were born. Nobody wants to rewrite all of this. Initial testing of
> >> systemd compatibility were negative, and nothing looked so easy to fix
> >> that someone jumped up and said "I'll do that!"
> >>
> >>
> > Any specifics? What problems did you run into with the sysv compat
> > support in systemd?
>
> Do you feel confident whit it Michel Biebl? My clients could not feel
> confident whit it!
>
> "Community
>
> Systemd is a lively project with dozens of developers from various
> companies, including Red Hat, Samsung and Intel. It integrates
> contributions from even more individual contributors: to this date, 438
> authors, with 63 having at least 10 commits. It can also be noted that
> two of the Debian maintainers have commit permissions."
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd
Sorry, but could you explain why you quoted that paragraph
from this web page. Are you supporting or disputing the
statistics in it, or is it meant to give weight to some
argument that you haven't yet made?
Cheers,
David.
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