Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

There is a trade off between decentralization & reliability. Traditional E-Mail that people are talking about is NOT TRULY decentral.

For instance think about how E-Mail work:

1- Mail Client Query MX record from DNS

2- Connect to SMTP Server and Exchange E-Mail.

3- SMTP figure out the sender IP and look domain of E-Mail

3- SMTP server query SRV Record of that domain and check is that IP valid.

4- (Nowadays) SMTP query DKIM (Which is TXT record) and validate also.

So think how BITMESSAGE:

1- The massage ONLY can access in TWO DAYS!

2- All Nodes have ALL E-Mail in Cryptic Form.

About you last sentence:

It's better that your message Not arrive instead of being disclose! and This is the philosophy behind True P2P IM systems.

Regards

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

> You can't have all the best together.

What does that mean, exactly? Are you saying it doesn't have reliable
message delivery? If so, that'd be a deal breaker for me.

Stefan "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an
unreliable messaging system"

> This mention in previous E-Mails as well. E.g: <[🔎] 20160817192400.GB9964@alum>

> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> wrote:

>> > I think you looking for TOX!
>> > Visit TOX Project website:
>> > https://tox.chat
>>
>> Thanks. That does look promising (although I don't see any mention of
>> reliable delivery),
>>
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Stefan Monnier <
>> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> I'm looking for a decentralized instant message system (e.g. XMPP, SIP,
>> >> ...) where I can be sure that I receive all messages, even if I'm not
>> >> connected when the message is sent [ Obviously, I'll only receive them
>> >> when I'm back online. ]
>> >>
>> >> IIUC there is some XMPP features that allow such reliable delivery, but
>> >> it seems that it's not widely supported by clients. What Debian
>> >> clients, using which protocols, can provide reliable instant messaging?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Stefan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> PS: Bonus points if that feature is also available on an Android
>> >> application that's Free Software.
>> >>
>> >>
>>