Re: [Gimp-user] Next gotcha(off topic)
On Monday 25 July 2016 16:34:11 limpia wrote:
> On 2016-07-24 22:27, phil wrote:
> > On 25/07/2016 9:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> >> (Bringing it back to both lists so those who are telling Gene he
> >> should upgrade his debian can get a clue.)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday 23 July 2016 05:41:29 Michael Schumacher wrote:
> >>>> On 07/22/2016 10:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>>>> But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire
> >>>>> up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the
> >>>>> "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright,
> >>>>> got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at
> >>>>> your service, NOT.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, actually you are not up-to-date at all - this is because you
> >>>> choose to run the oldstable Debian release.
> >>>>
> >>>> This also means you're missing most of the bug fixes that have
> >>>> happened in 2.8 since 2.8.2 has been released (minus some security
> >>>> fixes, maybe).
> >>>>
> >>>>> Did this train lose its conductor a few stops back? Or how can I
> >>>>> back it up to when it Just Worked(TM) quite a bit of the time?
> >>>>
> >>>> You should check whether you can and want to upgrade to a more
> >>>> current
> >>>> Debian release. Or, in train terms: check if you want to board a
> >>>> train
> >>>> that is actually going somewhere, instead of the museum train that's
> >>>> running around in circles on its closed track.
> >>>
> >>> True, but I am stuck with a distribution that can run LinuxCNC, which
> >>> has
> >>> a need for a real time capable kernel. The guys are working on it but
> >>> so
> >>> far have not managed to get good enough IRQ response with kernels
> >>> post
> >>> 3.4.9-55 to run stepper motors direct, they have to be delegated to
> >>> specialized control cards that run from $90 to 3 or 400, depending on
> >>> the complexity of the machine being controlled.
> >>
> >> (I suppose I should restrain myself, and it doesn't help Gene at all
> >> for me to say, to the pro-systemd sheeple, that this is what I was
> >> warning about. But this is what I was warning about.
> >>
> >> Oh, for someone to foot me a few hundred million JPY to fork the
> >> kernel and strip it of all the damage done in trying to deal with that
> >> cabal.
> >>
> >> Ah, but I'd prefer to write a new kernel from scratch and get rid of a
> >> whole lot of cruft. Linus has done well, and the bazaar has worked
> >> well, but the committee effects take their toll. Systemd was just the
> >> worst visible evidence of the committee effect to date. And I doubt
> >> anyone reading this except Gene understands my mumbling, so I really
> >> should restrain myself. :-< )
> >
> > No Joel i'm sure plenty of us understand exactly what you are getting
> > at
> > . . .
>
> I have been following this thread, it seems to be drifting
> into another topic, but any way, I just wanted to comment,
> I never did like either Gimp or Inkscape, and have tried all
> sorts of other "graphics programs", but none come close to the
> versatility, and user friendliness that ImageMagick has, with
> ImageMagick I can do whatever I need to do quickly and easily.
For something as simple as Gene was wanting, LibreOffice Draw would probably
have been more than adequate, and much less trouble. But Gene is a great
exponent of the "If the hard way will do, why use the easy one?" school of
thought. ;-)
Lisi
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