On 25/07/2016 9:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > (Bringing it back to both lists so those who are telling Gene he > should upgrade his debian can get a clue.) > > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote: >> On Saturday 23 July 2016 05:41:29 Michael Schumacher wrote: >> >>> On 07/22/2016 10:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>>> But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire >>>> up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the >>>> "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, >>>> got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at >>>> your service, NOT. >>> >>> Well, actually you are not up-to-date at all - this is because you >>> choose to run the oldstable Debian release. >>> >>> This also means you're missing most of the bug fixes that have >>> happened in 2.8 since 2.8.2 has been released (minus some security >>> fixes, maybe). >>> >>>> Did this train lose its conductor a few stops back? Or how can I >>>> back it up to when it Just Worked(TM) quite a bit of the time? >>> >>> You should check whether you can and want to upgrade to a more current >>> Debian release. Or, in train terms: check if you want to board a train >>> that is actually going somewhere, instead of the museum train that's >>> running around in circles on its closed track. >> >> True, but I am stuck with a distribution that can run LinuxCNC, which has >> a need for a real time capable kernel. The guys are working on it but so >> far have not managed to get good enough IRQ response with kernels post >> 3.4.9-55 to run stepper motors direct, they have to be delegated to >> specialized control cards that run from $90 to 3 or 400, depending on >> the complexity of the machine being controlled. > > (I suppose I should restrain myself, and it doesn't help Gene at all > for me to say, to the pro-systemd sheeple, that this is what I was > warning about. But this is what I was warning about. > > Oh, for someone to foot me a few hundred million JPY to fork the > kernel and strip it of all the damage done in trying to deal with that > cabal. > > Ah, but I'd prefer to write a new kernel from scratch and get rid of a > whole lot of cruft. Linus has done well, and the bazaar has worked > well, but the committee effects take their toll. Systemd was just the > worst visible evidence of the committee effect to date. And I doubt > anyone reading this except Gene understands my mumbling, so I really > should restrain myself. :-< ) > No Joel i'm sure plenty of us understand exactly what you are getting at . . . -- “Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in the hospital, dying of nothing. ” Regards, Phil
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