Re: wireless without network-manager... is it still possible?
On Sun 22 May 2016 at 10:34:02 -0800, Britton Kerin wrote:
> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:44 PM, <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
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> > On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 09:02:15PM -0800, Britton Kerin wrote:
> >> somehow network-manager makes it work. But I've had it with gnome, and none
> >> of the command line tools or references I've found work. That
> >> includes /etc/network/interfaces,
> >> direct use of ifconfig,iw,ip,rfkill,wpa_supplicant,dhclient, and
> >> wicd-client (though it's not really what I want.
> >
> > I have wireless working (right now) without Network Manager, via
> > ifupdown, on jessie/sid.
> >
> >> Is this even still possible or have the systemd assholes decided we
> >> shouldn't be doing it?
> >
> > Now, now. I don't like systemd myself (and manage to avoid it, I'm
> > still using SysV init), but treating free software developers as
>
> Nice to hear that's still possible, the general tone I've seen so far as
> I look at this is that its a huge pain even on gentoo and almost
> impossible elsewhere.
We do not care what happens on gentoo etc. If this is the substance of
your argument it is vey thin. As tomas says: on Debian wireless works
without Network Manager, If it doesn't for you, it merely indicates
your incompetence.
> > "assholes" seems highly inappropriate.
>
> Well it's the customary term for people with the attitude that they constantly
> and deliberately exhibit.
"Arseholes" is the correct terminology. You've not posted enough
nonsense in this thread yet for it to be applied to you. But you could
try really hard. ;)
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> So I need gnome running to talk to my network card. How fcking ridiculous. It
> should be a kernel function but it looks like the only tested configuration
> involves all of this wobbly stack of garbage. Isn't this exactly what we were
> promised wasn't going to happen when debian went with systemd?
The "u" key on your keyboard is not working consistently. HTH.
A kernel function? Can we trust them? Promises, promises.
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