Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] (caution: thread deviation)

["John L. Ries" <jries@salford-systems.com>]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I found systemd to be ridiculously counterintuitive and poorly documented when I was first exposed to it.  To this day, the standard GUI configurator for it (systemadm) is so limited as to be nearly useless; and I find hand-configuring a new service to be a major exercise only to be undertaken with several manpages open.  It's better now, but I'm not persuaded that the learning curve was worth the supposed benefits of the new system.
Slackware's old fashioned BSD-style startup scripts are starting to look very attractive to me (I don't have to learn a new language to write or customize them).

On April 17, 2016 6:00:10 AM MDT, Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> wrote:

On Sunday 17 April 2016 11:48:16 Mark Fletcher wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM Michael Milliman <
 
 michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> wrote:
 I've never really
 liked systemd, though I must admit it does work and do the job -- I just
 like the simplicity of the init system better.  Admittedly, I may well
 be undereducated on systemd resulting in my prejudice.
 
 Speaking of prejudice -- question to the list in general -- why the vitriol
 in the linux community about systemd? I read the "I'm changing distros
 because I don't like systemd" type blog posts, and the "Debian devs are
 evil for forcing systemd on us" and so on -- and then I tried it. I've even
 built a LFS system using it. I really, really can't see what the fuss is
 about. Yes, it's complicated, but then init was quite capable of confusing
 the living daylights out of me as well...
 
 It seems the emotions, even now, are running too high to be simply about
 "if it ain't broke don't fix it". What am I missing?
 
 Mark

All the pros and cons of system.d have been discussed and ranted about here 
and can be easily found in the archives. I personally don't think that it is 
necessary to go through those discussions again.

Easily one can slip some emotional comment [sigh!] (sic) into a posting but it 
is unnecessary to jump on it - no?

All the best to y'all
Eike

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