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Re: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] (caution: thread deviation)

I can't speak for anyone else, but I found systemd to be ridiculously counterintuitive and poorly documented when I was first exposed to it. To this day, the standard GUI configurator for it (systemadm) is so limited as to be nearly useless; and I find hand-configuring a new service to be a major exercise only to be undertaken with several manpages open. It's better now, but I'm not persuaded that the learning curve was worth the supposed benefits of the new system.
Slackware's old fashioned BSD-style startup scripts are starting to look very attractive to me (I don't have to learn a new language to write or customize them).

On April 17, 2016 6:00:10 AM MDT, Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> wrote:
On Sunday 17 April 2016 11:48:16 Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:19 PM Michael Milliman <

michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> wrote:
I've never really
liked systemd, though I must admit it does work and do the job -- I just
like the simplicity of the init system better. Admittedly, I may well
be undereducated on systemd resulting in my prejudice.

Speaking of prejudice -- question to the list in general -- why the vitriol
in the linux community about systemd? I read the "I'm changing distros
because I don't like systemd" type blog posts, and the "Debian devs are
evil for forcing systemd on us" and so on -- and then I tried it. I've even
built a LFS system using it. I really, really can't see what the fuss is
about. Yes, it's complicated, but then init was quite capable of confusing
the living daylights out of me as well...

It seems the emotions, even now, are running too high to be simply about
"if it ain't broke don't fix it". What am I missing?


All the pros and cons of system.d have been discussed and ranted about here
and can be easily found in the archives. I personally don't think that it is
necessary to go through those discussions again.

Easily one can slip some emotional comment [sigh!] (sic) into a posting but it
is unnecessary to jump on it - no?

All the best to y'all

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