On 2016-03-20 at 14:51, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 20 March 2016 18:43:03 Gene Heskett wrote: > >> And since all this is also going to bring in systemd, > > Why?? Because a new Debian install, with current install media, installs systemd. You can go out of your way and take extra steps to remove it and install sysvinit again, if you know what you're doing - I think even before rebooting into the newly-installed system - but it's not sufficiently trivial and straightforward for most people to consider worth tackling. (Even then, systemd has still been brought in, even if you've kicked it straight back out again.) That's unless things have changed since the last news I heard on this front, but since I did an install (either of latest stable or of current testing, I forget which) within the past month and did not see any simpler way of installing without systemd, I don't really expect that they have. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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