Re: wheezy, message log being spammed by segfaults from apt_check.py
On Thursday 14 January 2016 21:04:32 Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 00:27:19 +0000
>
> Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Thursday 14 January 2016 23:49:03 Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> On Thursday 14 January 2016 17:39:59 Johann Klammer wrote:
> >> > On 01/14/2016 10:50 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> > > On Thursday 14 January 2016 16:18:08 Johann Klammer wrote:
> >> > >> Synaptic runs on your box?
> >> > >> Years ago, when I tried it, it would always crash right on
> >> > >> startup.... use aptitude. It seems a lot more stable...
> >> > >
> >> > > Back on list where it belongs.
> >> > >
> >> > > I just ran it, and its obvious it doesn't reference the same
> >> > > database of installed files that apt and synaptic use. It just
> >> > > now wanted
> >> >
> >> > AFAIK, It does use the same database. Your system seems hosed...
> >> > Are you running it on the box that the OS is installed on, or on
> >> > some (boot... ,whatever) client?
> >>
> >> Directly on the os and box connected to this keyboard, no vpn's or
> >> anything else involved.
> >>
> >> > > to "upgrade" or sidegrade, 292 packages. Refreshing the list
> >> > > didn't help but it reminded me of the 4 color screens we had on
> >> > > the amiga's back in the amigados-1.3 days. Positively an
> >> > > assault on the eyeballs.
> >> >
> >> > press u to update.
> >>
> >> I did, didn't affect its faulty judgement a bit. It still wanted to
> >> update nearly 300 packages.
> >>
> >> > > But when an uptodate system is said to have 292 old or
> >> > > defective packages on it, I'm not sure I want it mucking around
> >> > > in MY used car lot.
> >> >
> >> > what kind of defective? broken? that means the dependencies are
> >> > not met... Press e to start the interactive resolver.
> >> > a and r to accept or reject.
> >>
> >> I'd have no clue what its doing in the background when I do that.
> >> FWIW, I had it hose the system on my laptop about 4 years ago with
> >> exactly this sort of a starting point. I'll pass as its 99.99%
> >> working right now.
> >>
> >> > > For what its worth, as root, an apt-get update, followed by an
> >> > > apt-get upgrade reports 0 package to upgrade.
>
> The answer may be in the above sentence. What does apt-get update,
> followed by apt-get dist-upgrade show? upgrade on its own does not
> upgrade all packages. It skips kernel and some other stuff. Perhaps
> that accounts for the differences?
Will that not update me to Jessie? I'd rather not take that step until a
fresh spin is available from linuxcnc.org, not too long after 16.04 LTS
is out.
> >> > > From that it would appear aptitude is confused at best, broken
> >> > > at worst.
> >>
> >> No comment? Seems like the above report does warrant some sort of
> >> a reply.
> >
> >Gene, it isn't worthy of a response, so Johann wisely ignored it.
> > Johann - Gene has wheezy-backports fully enabled in his
> > sources.list, with, so far as I can tell, the same pinning as the
> > other sources. Synaptic used it to upgrade over 300 packages. It
> > is probably some kind of kludge, resulting from this,that Aptitude
> > is trying to sort out.
> >
> >Gene enjoys breaking his system and then seeing if he can make it run
> > again. Genuinely. I believe. If it actually ran smoothly he would
> > probably be bored, and immediately deliberately break it again. He
> > wants to write all his own scripts, and is frustrated that he is not
> > as good at it as when he was younger (I can empathise there!!), but
> > uses a GUI package manager which isn't as good at sorting out
> > problems, and shies away from the CLI. :-/
> >
> >But, as I say, Aptitude is probably unhappy with a system fully
> > upgraded to Backports.
> >
> >> > > All of these tools are, AFAIK, supposed to be using the same
> >> > > sources.list, and the same installed list. update-manager does
> >> > > but Obviously aptitude is not.
> >> > >
> >> > > I believe I'll stick to using synaptic.
> >>
> >> +10
> >
> >Glad you still wholeheartedly agree with yourself, Gene. ;-)
> >
> >Lisi
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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