Marco Stoecker wrote: > If I've read the thread carefully and I thought that I indeed have a similar > problem as Daniel has, which in summary means "If you disable the default > site via a2dissite, it will nevertheless show the index.html in > /var/www/html, when you call localhost or the dedicated IP of the machine" Did you disable the port 80 listen statement in the /etc/apache2/ports.conf file? That is a required step when trying to disable port 80. If you didn't then getting a page is expected. > I apologize if I've raised confusion about my mailman site, this > should have been an example to point out what I have meant, it was > not the problem itself. Anyhow thx for your support, I appreciated > it. No worries. We could site down over lunch and a beverage and have an enjoyable conversation over it. But I still think the two things we have been talking about in this thread are in fundamental conflict with each other. Maybe I am just being very strict and rigid in my thinking. When dealing with the computer it helps me to think like the computer thinks and operate with it exactly as it will operate. Basically I follow the same policies and programs as the computer. I do this intentionally and with as much vigor as I can muster! This helps me, but dare I say that most people don't operate this way. Most people tend to be very fuzzy in their thinking. For instance with Apache's configuration there are many independent variables. Each is independent of each other. It either listens on port 80 or it does not. It is completely one or the other with no grey space. Daniel wanted to disable http access entirely. To do that the ports.conf file must be modified to remove the "Listen 80" statement. It either listens or it does not listen. This is completely independent of having a default site. If Mailman is installed and has a VirtualHost entry but isn't the default site then that is independent and separate. If someone wants to set up Mailman as the default site. That wouldn't be typical and so can't be sent out as a default. But it is easily configured to be the default site. And I think you have that figured out now? Maybe? Set up the Mailman VirtualHost to have the _default_ config. Or set it up to be the first and/or only VirtualHost configured which will do the same thing. Either way. That should set you up. Bob
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