Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

[Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>]

Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 October 2015 13:49:08 Richard Owlett wrote:
> > Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com> writes:
> > > > [SNIP]
> > > >
> > > > what did they do to poll the views of the user community on the
> > > > question?
> > >
> > > If you want to know how Debian's technical committee came to choose
> > > systemd as the default init, see [2].
> > >
> > >     [2] <https://bugs.debian.org/727708>
> >
> > That page explicitly answers "How?" [with a emphasis perhaps on
> > the mechanics on how the formal side of the Debian community works].
> >
> > An underlying incompletely answered question is "Why?"
> > There have been partial answers written by and for geeks.
> > What has the end-user, with a single machine, gained today from
> > the adoption of systemd?
>
> Far faster boot up and shut down times.  And it does seem to be much faster.
>
> > During the furor I tried chasing down links by systemd
> > proponents. All I found were descriptions of how it made life
> > easier for developers and those administering multi-user systems.
>
> Most of the furor I have seen has been the complete opposite.  Developers and
> systems administrators complaining that systemd made life harder.

I was restricting my search to PROponents of systemd. IOW I was 
looking for a systemd sales-pitch. What I got reminded me of a 
used car salesman I met when shopping for my first car. I'd 
specified I needed a car for urban commuting, he insisted on 
touting its off road capability. Needless to say I never went 
back to that dealer.


> Please note that I am not saying that all administrators and developers said
> that.  Merely that most of those complaining at least claim to be
> administrators etc., and claim that systemd is only really an advantage to
> the single desktop user.
>
> Lisi