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Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

Op 12-09-15 om 22:21 schreef Liam O'Toole:
> On 2015-09-11, Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> wrote:
>> Op 09-09-15 om 23:43 schreef Liam O'Toole:
>>> On 2015-09-09, Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> wrote:
>>>> Op 09-09-15 om 12:20 schreef Liam O'Toole:
>>>>> If you use flashplayer-mozilla from deb-multimedia, then you get updates
>>>>> automatically. 
>>>> When you use cron, you get updates automatically too. See my other post.
>>> I saw that, thanks. I prefer to manage updates through APT. Each to his
>>> own.
>> You prefer to get updates from a place, what gave many problems in the past.
>>>>> Conflicts are avoided by pinning the deb-multimedia repository.
>>>> I think this is complex to do right.
>>>> My experience: deb-multimedia in sources.list gives problems.
>>>> See: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ#Common_issues
>>>> When I need a package from deb-multimedia, I use wget and dpkg.
>>> I've been using Flash from deb-multimedia for years without issue (on
>>> stable releases, I grant you). I use the following pinning:
>>> Package: *
>>> Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages
>>> Pin-Priority: 100
>> I don't know what this is doing, do you?
> Yes. When a package is available in both debian and deb-multimedia, the
> former is always preferred.

And when an update of a package depends on a package what's newer then
what's available in Debian?

>> I think you will have many packages on your system what are coming from
>> deb-multimedia. Maybe that's what you want, no idea.
> Not so. See above.

Nice to hear. But they can do it if they want, or when they make a
mistake. I guess.

>> I think the people from deb-multimedia are doing their best to make good
>> packages. But I think Debian is too complex to mix with a repo like
>> deb-multimedia with many packages. Maybe you don't have problems with
>> flash, but I think your system is not "rock solid" anymore.
>> And what does deb-multimedia bring you for that?
> The system is no longer 'rock solid' as soon as you install any
> third-party software, be it via flashplayer-mozilla or
> flashplugin-nonfree or anything else.

The packages in Debian are good tested with eachother. I don't think the
packages in deb-multimedia are tested that good. And Debian can change
things what gives problems with deb-multimedia.

I've used deb-multimedia in the past, but I don't do it anymore. The
only package what I miss sometimes is libdvdcss2. But maybe there is
interesting software there what I don't know.

And yes, maybe flashplayer-mozilla is a little bit better then
flashplugin-nonfree. But I found a good workarround for updating. And
most of my customers don't use a flashplugin anymore. Only people who
want to look TV on the computer, or who want to play flash-games have
problems. For listening radio are good alternatives available.
Video-sites are working most of the time good with HTML5.

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.

Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen

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